Obama serves only his corporate masters

[cali]

He's determined to enslave Americans, binding them to the yoke of insurance companies, gleefully rubbing his blood soaked hands as he tosses wheelchair bound grannies on the ash heap while yanking their Social Security checks from their poor palsied hands.

Oh woe, oh dread.

Who will save us from this evil man?

[BrklynLiberal]

1. Where is your "sarcasm" thingy?

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: on my part.

[cali]

2. do I really need it?

seems pretty obvious, doesn't it?

[hlthe2b]

4. Yes... before your thread gets x-posted at every RW propaganda

site out there (aka the MSM).... Wake up, cali. Don't feed the assholes.

[BrklynLiberal]

5. It was obvious to me. I was being sarcastic with my post...

Guess my sarcasm was not obvious, even tho I did use the sarcasm thingy.

[sui generis]

3. I'll take that amateur bait

if it was any better you'd be a master baiter, but, we are bound to the yoke of insurance companies and my personal opinion is that anyone too stupid to see that shouldn't bother replying to this post.

[cali]

7. well, I get called a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them.

Look, the point of the OP is that Obama is a more complex figure than some are making him out to be. And as for people being bound to the yoke of insurance companies, they already are. I don't believe they'll be any more bound to them because of this legislation despite the mandate.

[sui generis]

11. not calling you stupid Cali - I get your sarcasm and point

But seriously, on choosing to mandate insurance Obama made one of several choices that could have been made, and I can't be convinced that the government mandating a private industry expense is appropriate without a government alternative, or public option so to speak.

The main thing is that health insurance works by managing risk and reducing expense. It does that by underpaying procedure and regulating risk groups. Technically everyone at your office is paying higher premiums for every pregnancy in your group, not just cancer, high blood pressure and head-exploding incontinence.

The problem I see is that now we have essentially created a real legal basis for insurance companies claiming they have a right to profit, and as long as that exists, you will find that primary healthcare recommendations such as PAP, colonoscopy, PSA (prostate) will suddenly happen less frequently or not at all in some age groups, while the recommendation to medicate people for high blood pressure will now drop below systolic 120 so that pharma can profit off of people required to comply with their insurance wellness requirement.

Not catastrophizing, to be sure, but taxing tans without guaranteeing that the collected tax goes into skin cancer prevention is dishonest and disingenuous. I'm sure that every conceivable "sin" or "danger" tax that can be thought of is being thought of now. How about skiing and horseback riding. How about a premium change for speeding tickets and other traffic violations? For NOT having a gym membership, and using it. The door is open and we've essentially given mandate to our employers and insurers to babysit our health to manage their profits. Why should your employer continue to have access to your health records? By law they get to see every single expense on their year end analysis so even if they don't see your individual health record, the tests ordered and medications subscribed, by named subscriber are essentially the same, and can and do impact continued employment as long as that group coverage is subject to risk mitigation by managing your employee population.

I just don't like that we're screwed in even tighter.

[emulatorloo]

6. I SAW THAT TWILIGHT ZONE EPISODE TOO!!!!! "To Serve Man" It is a COOKBOOK!!!!

So does he cook his corporate masters baked or grilled?

[laughingliberal]

8. I do have some concerns about the plans for Social Security

The crash of the housing market left my husband's business on the ash heap. The loss of my job the next year took the rest of our income. My 401k was withdrawn to provide us something to live on and with which to pay our $1200 per month COBRA until my husband could finish his treatments for cancer. We have no real chance, at our age, of finding employment again. We hope to live, without health care, until we can draw some Social Security and Medicare. The two of us together won't draw enough SS to amount to a hill of beans but it is all we have. We have watched as a decent life we worked our butts off to build for ourselves came crashing down around us in a year and a half leaving us poor and scraping for food and shelter for since the 1st quarter of 2008. I sit here just shocked to know our Democratic President is aligned with Kent Conrad and Judd Gregg on the plans for 'deficit reduction' and that he appointed a well know hater of SS to head the deficit commission.

An article posted here last night projected homelessness among seniors to increase by 33% in the next years. Yet, you find our fear an opportunity for humor and ridicule? I'm overwhelmed by the compassion.

[branders seine]

9. no one in DC

[DevonRex]

10. Excellent snark, cali.

:yourock:

[PufPuf23]

12. Your histrionics are notable. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. The new boss has met the real bosses and decided to play it their way.

He's an ambitious politician with his eyes focused on 2012. So, he's playing the game that politicians think they have to play in order to get reelected.

Unfortunately, the game is corrupt and fixed.

[alarimer]

14. The real powers-that-be in this country ARE corporations

Every politician with any ambition comes up against that reality sooner or later. There is no way the corporate elite will let Obama keep any of the promises he made that threaten their well-being.

Elections are by and large a joke.