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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:54 AM
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RW's response to Hutaree: Calling Hutaree "Christian Militia/Terrorists" is an attack on Christians
Edited on Tue Mar-30-10 10:55 AM by ck4829
""Many mainstream media outlets, like ABC and CNN, are irresponsibly reporting that those arrested in Michigan in the alleged plot to murder law enforcement officers are 'Christians,'" said Dr. Gary Cass of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission. "Even if they identify themselves as Christians, what they were allegedly planning is absolutely contrary to Christianity. They may have illicitly co-opted the Christian faith to justify their murderous intentions, but it is defamatory for the media to keep referring to them as Christians. They are simply terrorists."

According to ABC news website, "a family of four was behind an anti-government militia plot to kill law enforcement officers with improvised explosive devices and projectiles before being foiled by an FBI raid Sunday that netted nine members of a Christian extremist group, ... the fringe Christian militia group called the Hutaree to kill a Michigan law enforcement officer and then ambush the officer's colleagues who would have gathered for the funeral...." CNN news website displayed the headline, "Christian Warrior" Militia Accused in Plot to Kill Police.

"I find it hypocritical that news organizations will not call someone who carries out Jihad in accordance to his faith what he really is, an Islamic terrorist, for fear of offending Muslims. But when some insane person claims to be a Christian and does something completely contrary to the Christian faith, the media keeps making the libelous association," said Cass. "It's time for the news media to stop this transparent double standard.""

From their own website:

"HUTAREE; Christian Warrior

As christians we all are a part of the Souls of the Body of Christ, the one true church of Christ. Not any specific man made building or any man controlled organization. This is the belief of the Hutaree soldier, as should the belief of all followers in Christ be.

We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. All christians must know this and prepare, just as Christ commanded. Luke 22:35-37, And He said to them, “When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?” So they said, “Nothing.” 36, Then he said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37, “For I say to you that this which is written must be accomplished in me: ‘And He was numbered with transgressors,’ For the things concerning Me have an end.” This clearly states the reason for the training and preparation of the Hutaree."

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cass-calling-christian-militia-christian-militia-attack-christians

If Hutaree was an Islamic group, then the coverage would have only multiplied. What world does Cass live on anyway?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:59 AM
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1. re: the same could be said of the RW forms of fundie Xianity
said Dr. Gary Cass of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission. "Even if they identify themselves as Christians, what they were allegedly planning is absolutely contrary to Christianity.

Fine... We won't refer to them as Christian militias and neither will we refer to the RW bastardized forms of religion they wield as a club as Christianity.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:45 AM
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14. They are not christian, that's for sure.
And they ARE domestic terrorists.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:59 AM
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What a coincidence. There are those that are insulted that the RWingnuts call themselvesChristians
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:59 AM
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2. It certainly is a shame that what the right wing nuts think of as christian
and what is really Christian are two different things. But then the hate and violence preached daily by rush and Fox and all the rest is overwhelming. Maybe if these people really did go to a Church they would have been able to tell the difference.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:11 AM
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10. So the 'real Christians' are the ones who are only bigoted
against gay people? These people did go to a church, as did all of the priests that abused, as do all of the bigots who line up against equal rights. Fred Phelps. Rick Warren. Donnie McClurkin. Dobson. Robertson.
So you claim the 'no true Scotsman' defense, but the whole of the faith stands with the haters against equal rights for my family. I see no real difference.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:59 AM
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3. FUCK YOU...is all I have to say about that.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:00 AM
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4. A reminder of the RW response to Islamic terrorism
"Where are the moderate Muslims?" coupled with endless out-of-context quotes from the Koran purportedly showing that terrorism is inherent in the Islamic faith. Nope, no double standards there at all :sarcasm:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:01 AM
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5. Does Dr. Gary Cass take his porridge with or without sugar?...nt
Sid
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:01 AM
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6. Take it up with them
it's their lable.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:01 AM
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7. So the RW admits to attacking Muslims when they talk about Muslim terrorists
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 12:53 PM
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19. They will never, NEVER, get that.
Something about bleedingly obviously parallels just seem to escape wingnuts completely.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:05 AM
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8. Let's see - the Michigan Militia said they had nothing to do with these clowns,
the Christian RWers say those people were not christians anyway, some RWers say it was all a set up by Obama to start tha massive arrests of all conservatives, and one RW militia guy stated this morning that if "Shots had been fired" it would have been the start of a civil war.

They suddenly on their own, no RW pals like they had when they wer all safely on their web site.

Oh and that civil war thing? I am now SURE that there is a steady flow of information from EVERY militant organization to the Feds, and that any real insurrection would be a terrible mistake on the part of the "rebels" - WE are the legitimate US Government, assholes, and you guys are like flies in comparison - nothing but an annoyance.


mark
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:43 AM
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13. If shooting really stars a lot of innocent people will die before they put that..
annoyance in jail.

We are fortunate that Hutaree had no real clue about OPSEC. We are fortunate that they were infiltrated.

Now the other militia's know they were infiltrated and will be asking, "Which of our members are FBI."

These militia's might have chose not to get involved with the plot, but they would have become involved once someone else started it.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:06 AM
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9. I call the whole thing a tempest in a teapot
Their plot was foiled by good law enforcement work, which is how things should always work out.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 01:27 PM
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20. And How Confident Are You Of Such Good Results In The Future?

A damned sight more confident than I am, I bet......
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:16 AM
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11. Christian Terrorists. knr nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:43 AM
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12. Perhaps this is in response to omitting the term "Islamic" in other cases.
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veganlush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:47 AM
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15. yes, as someone said above me on this thread...
...they should be called Christian Terrorists, not "Christians"
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 12:00 PM
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16. So should we omit 'Christian' and instead attack all militias?
Or should we refrain from attacking any terrorists?

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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 12:02 PM
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17. Muslims who hate it when we call Al Qaeda "Muslim Terrorists" not available for comment
Irony surrenders.
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DuckyCase Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 12:03 PM
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18. A lady I've known from another forum for the past ten years...
started talking about "the people she knows" gathering weapons since the Obama Election. She seems to think that there's an under current of angry white people who are going to rise up and "take this country back." I've told her that she needs to watch out if she's getting involved with people who are going to commit violent acts against the government, but she actually thinks that there's this overwhelming majority who are going to join in the fight. She also seems to think that the people who don't join up are pansy liberals who will be easily crushed by the macho right wingers. Groupthink is a bitch.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 01:30 PM
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21. No more than saying OBL is a terrorist is an attack on Muslims in general n/t
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