Can states still do their own single payer plans now? Or does the HCR foreclose that?

[Hello_Kitty]

I'm hearing and reading conflicting things. Did the final bill end up with either Sanders' or Kucinich's amendments?

[JuniperLea]

1. Yes they can... that's why they can "opt out" eom

[damntexdem]

6. What about ERISA? I thought that blocked all states except Hawaii -- which was grandfathered.

[wtbymark]

2. unfortunately not until 2017, but Sanders is trying to move it to 2013

I heard him talk about it w/Thom Hartmann on fri

[glinda]

3. They can do it before 2013. They should move it to Jan. 2011. At the latest.

[Davis_X_Machina]

4. Name three states where a one-state single-payer system would....

...a.) pass and b.) be large enough to pull it off.

[cali]

7. I don't know about other states but Vermont will almost certainly

set up single payer.

[glinda]

8. If reliable info got out on it, I would bet MN. might have a shot. Provided we get Dem. Gov.

[Ozymanithrax]

5. It won't pass in California, because a Republican minority controls the house...

and Senate. Also, California is so deep in deficits right now attempting such a plan would probably be political suicide for the Democratic majority. Republicans would sell it as Democrats being fiscally irresponsible, and a majority would run like lemmings at the suggestion to vote in Republicans.