JFK: So, where are the Howard Hunt threads?

[BuyingThyme]

And has anybody seen the St. John Hunt DVD?

http://saintjohnhunt.com/

I heard an excerpt of Howard Hunt's "confession" last night on Coast to Coast. Some time before he died, Hunt sent a tape to his son on which he claimed that LBJ was behind the plot to assassinate President Kennedy.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2007/05/01.html#recap

In short, Hunt claims that he was in on the plot, but not involved in the carrying out the murder. He refers to himself as a "benchwarmer." Now, as all of you know, it's not possible to be in on the plot, but innocent of murder, particularly when you've repeatedly stated under oath that you knew nothing about the plot.

So, we know for sure that Hunt is lying. But why?

I believe this is a limited hangout -- a partial truth which is intended to draw attention from the underlying truth. It seems that Hunt is trying to tie up some loose ends.

I believe Hunt was involved to the very end, and was relatively recently tasked with shutting this whole mess down for good -- if not in the minds of all parties, then in the minds of the vast majority of Americans who know that John F. Kennedy was not murdered by a lone gunman named Lee Harvey Oswald.

The simplistic way in which Hunt approaches this is very telling. From what I gather, he tries to make the motive as simple as possible, as they did with Oswald. He tries to convince us that it was simply about a vice president who wanted to be president.

That's doesn't fly with me. How 'bout you?

[taterguy]

1. I think it's just a druggie trying to score some bucks

But I could be wrong and I can't believe I'm making a comment in a JFK thread

[BuyingThyme]

3. Howard Hunt was a druggie?

[taterguy]

5. The son is a drug addict

The rest of the family is distancing themselves from the son's claims

[BuyingThyme]

6. Do you believe the tape is fake?

[taterguy]

7. Yes, or that Howard was too delirious for it to have any accuracy

[BuyingThyme]

10. Have you heard any of the tape? It's very impressive.

From what little I heard, anyways. Hunt is clearly trying to frame a conclusion, largely by way of dancing around the specifics, but the way his does it just knocked me on my ass.

I don't think his son could have coached him into being more cogent than his son is even capable of being.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

11. He thought he was dying when he made this tape, 3 years ago. I would

think he would have requested the tape back if delirium was involved.

[Tom Joad]

2. His son had much to do with the tape. I think he his son had a

financial interest in this.

I think it may all be a bunch of malarkey.

[BuyingThyme]

12. How do you know his son had something to do with making the tape?

[Tom Joad]

23. I read the newspaper.

[BuyingThyme]

24. I see. Now, I suspect you're making this up, but I'll ask anyways:

What newspaper?

[H2O Man]

28. I think you

are speaking of Erik Hedegaard's article in Rolling Stone ("The Last Confession of E. Howard Hunt"). That article mentions some things about the father and son.

[shance]

4. He was a good lyer to the end. He told part of the truth, the part he left out was

his own involvement.

Oops.

[THUNDER HANDS]

8. my mom is certain LBJ was involved

but I was born 14 years after he was killed, so what do i know?

[BuyingThyme]

14. You know that the same people who worked with Howard Hunt

in the CIA are now running your country into the ground.

[Rageneau]

17. I agree with your mom.

And, unlike you, I was there at the time.

IMHO, anyone who has seen the famous photos of LBJ's 'swearing in' aboard AF1 has already seen plenty of evidence that Lyndon was collusive in JFK's death. So his involvement in RFK's murder seems more than likely. There was certainly no love left between the arrogant and ruthless Kennedys and the even-more-arrogant and even more ruthless Lyndon Johnson.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

9. His son is starting an interview right now online at a site that can't be named.... eom

[BuyingThyme]

13. Damn... No sound here.

But, take my word for it... This is going places... Places that are not forbidden...

[BuyingThyme]

15. Clean links:

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Convicted_Watergate_plumber_claims_LBJ_may_0114.html
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01142007/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm

Well, one is.

[BuyingThyme]

16. I'm just starting to figure this thing out.

Hunt apparently wrote an entire book aimed at steering the blame towards people who can no longer be linked to the people in power. But it's hard to understand why the people in power would allow or require Hunt to do this.

[nashville_brook]

19. i see where this might go -- Texas politics... KBR... etc

[progressoid]

18. Ultimately, you need corroborating evidence. Got any of that?

So, if you want to put faith in this guy....which lies from a confirmed liar do you want to believe?

[BuyingThyme]

22. I hear they found the body.

It had bullet holes and everything.

[Duer 157099]

20. The son sounded very credible to me

Yeah, so he's had problem with drugs in the past, a lot of people have -- including the President (oh never mind, I just made your point! doh!)

I wonder what money St. John is making on this, anyway? Why didn't he just write his own book if that was his motivation?

The tape sounded believable to me, too. It sounded like Hunt was dictating, as though this was intended to be written.

Sometimes things are exactly as they seem.

Link to the Rolling Stone article:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13893143/the_last_confessions_of_e_howard_hunt

[PATRICK]

21. The son was also dragged in

on at least a couple of occasions. it would have been more convincing had the family been kept out of the loop. Instead the family itself is still tangled in it, the father always tried to make a buck writing fiction and spreading smoke and no, the simple story doesn't wash. Everyone and school believed the other guy did it. It might have indeed been a second level op who knew none of their conflicting higher ups dared dig hard. There is still no substitute for hard evidence and truth from more reliable sources.

The deathbed confession has no small whiff of George Tenet style in it with a lot of reticence about personal guilt about anything. If you are going to make an earthshaking good guess without baring your transitional soul, supported facts including self confession might be called for. Then, this might also be just sealing protection for the family once and for all. Notably, the theories of Hunt fall short of proof, because of course he was not involved nor knew anyone living who was and should have come forward.

[BuyingThyme]

25. Thanks for the link.

I don't buy that stuff about cleaning fingerprints off the communication equipment. It just doesn't make any sense.

[BuyingThyme]

26. I found absolute proof that there is truth in Hunt's "confession":

http://tinyurl.com/2lerxs

[Duer 157099]

27. LOL, it took me awhile but I think I finally got your point

(I think)

[BuyingThyme]

29. Yes.

It's what they don't say.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

30. Kick! eom