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Thu Apr-01-10 05:26 AM
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Poll question: Is The American Dream Still Alive? |
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Thu Apr-01-10 05:27 AM
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1. when reality sucks, there are always dreams |
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Thu Apr-01-10 05:28 AM
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2. Or Maybe Things Get So Bad That Folks Accept Them With Quiet Resignation |
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Thu Apr-01-10 05:36 AM
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3. I've resigned myself to the fact that I'll be at work on the day of my death... |
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Thu Apr-01-10 05:37 AM
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4. That Sounds Like A Nightmare |
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Thu Apr-01-10 05:47 AM
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6. I, like so many others, entrusted my retirement to corporate America. |
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I guess it's my own fault.
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Thu Apr-01-10 09:20 AM
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21. Me on the other hand wish I could still be working on my day of dying |
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Fri Apr-02-10 09:40 AM
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24. Your'e right, I guess it could always get worse. |
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I'm lucky I can still work...:banghead:
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Thu Apr-01-10 05:45 AM
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Thu Apr-01-10 05:52 AM
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7. I have to say it is alive, but very feeble and not there for everyone - but I don't |
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Edited on Thu Apr-01-10 05:52 AM by old mark
know how real it ever was for many people anyway - I think it is mythical to many people, just troubling feelings.
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Thu Apr-01-10 05:54 AM
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8. The Dream Has Deteriorated to a Fantasy |
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an unattainable fantasy. If you want the American dream back, try Europe, especially the northern part.
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Thu Apr-01-10 05:54 AM
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...just harder to attain these days. But still, if one has the drive to succeed, most will. It takes more than just waking up, going to work, and going to bed. It takes extra effort....it always has. Now that good paying manufacturing jobs are all but obsolete, the middle-class has shrunk, and the disparity in wages will keep them down until something is done to relieve that. By something, I mean an effort by businesses and corporations to invest in their employees again, instead of placing all the emphasis on the bottom line and pacifying investors and paying CEOs obscene salaries. Seems all the executives want only to enrich themselves at the expense of those who actually do the work!
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Thu Apr-01-10 06:58 AM
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17. We've moved beyond capitalism now to a pure greed system and the hell with the country, its |
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future or the citizens in the eyes of many having cornered the wealth of this country. The most baffling aspect is they have gotten many of the most disenfranchised to think the same, but yet they have nothing.
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Thu Apr-01-10 06:04 AM
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10. Charging... charging... charging.. Clear! |
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WHAM!
<listens through stethescope>
Charging... charging... charging.. Clear!
WHAM!
<listens through stethescope>
10cc of methadrenaline, stat..
<injects into heart>
<listens through stethescope>
Hopey changey springs eternal in the human breast..
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Thu Apr-01-10 06:17 AM
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11. Was it ever? For a fortunate few, maybe. |
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Thu Apr-01-10 06:38 AM
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12. To the same extent it ever was |
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The "rags to riches" thing is still real, extremely rare, but then it always was. There is nothing more effective in behaviorism than rare and random reinforcement. This is why gamboling is addictive and the American Dream still exists, every so often, someone, somewhere wins the jackpot, and it always makes news. Most of us live in hope of being the next big winner. Read "Death of a Salesman" for a serious take or watch the "Honeymooners" for a more comic take on this theme. "Someday my ship will come in", but it never does, and people will apparently put up with alot of BS for year upon year, to preserve the undying hope.
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Thu Apr-01-10 06:44 AM
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13. George Carlin ~ The American Dream ("it's a big club & you aint in it!") |
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Thu Apr-01-10 06:51 AM
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16. +1,000,000 +++, George Carlin, my favorite person. I miss him. n/t |
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Thu Apr-01-10 09:22 AM
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23. yes... you have to be asleep to believe in a dream |
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Thu Apr-01-10 06:48 AM
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14. You work hard, play by the rules & do everything you're supposed to do - and you'll succeed. |
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Edited on Thu Apr-01-10 06:49 AM by baldguy
It's a heaping, stinking crock of shit.
It's always been a heaping, stinking crock of shit.
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Thu Apr-01-10 06:49 AM
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15. Achieving the American dream (not sure what it is anymore) is difficult/impossible because |
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the goal posts keep moving farther away as you get closer and older. And once you score, someone comes along and cuts them down and often destroys your achievements through no fault of your own. All you did wrong was to play the game and follow the rules. Now many cheat along the way with neither integrity nor sportsmanship.
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Thu Apr-01-10 07:02 AM
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18. More than ever since it is an illusion. |
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Thu Apr-01-10 09:17 AM
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once home of the brave now we're all just corporate slaves i've walked so far in these old worn-out shoes just to get the red, white and blues:patriot:
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Thu Apr-01-10 09:20 AM
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22. It never WAS alive for anyone who wasn't white and middle-class. |
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It was a fantasy and an illusion. The few non-whites and poor people who managed to claw their way up are extraordinarily lucky exceptions to an otherwise dismal and rigid rule.
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Fri Apr-02-10 09:43 AM
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If you are born into it.
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Fri Apr-02-10 09:47 AM
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26. yes but like Carlin said.... |
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you have to be asleep to believe it.
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