Jeff In Milwaukee
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Thu Apr-01-10 09:45 AM
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Poll question: Democrats will GAIN seats in the 2010 Election |
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How do I know this? Because all of the experts on the news chat programs are CERTAIN that the Democrats are going to lose seats. January of 2008, Hillary was the Democratic Nominee -- six months later? Not so much. They're wrong consistently and continually.
Take it to the bank.
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Thu Apr-01-10 09:47 AM
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1. Along that line of thinking... |
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Thu Apr-01-10 09:53 AM
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2. No we won't. And that's a deeply flawed method ofcoming to a conclusion |
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But we won't lose nearly as many seats as the pundits think. the repubs have peaked too early and the angrier, uglier and more out of control elements associated with the repukes become, the better dem chances.
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Thu Apr-01-10 09:58 AM
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4. these midterms draw out a lot of negative votes |
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. . . folks voting against something.
I think the republican violence could spark a defense from Democratic voters. It all depends on events and locales. It might provide a margin in a close race, but it's really hard to rouse a motivated defense from voters assuming they've already done their job electing the majority we have now. Hard slog.
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Thu Apr-01-10 09:55 AM
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3. Sorry Jeff, but even the folks from OFA (Obama's political operation in the DNC)... |
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...think we're going to lose seats. We can perhaps minimize those losses, but losses there will be.
And the magnitude of those losses will depend a lot on whether or not various groups still think they've been thrown under Barack's Big Bus come November 2nd.
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:00 AM
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More realistic goal is damage control. Losing 2% of seats wouldn't materially change anything. Losing 10% would. Losing 20% would be a disaster.
If you go in thinking we will pull some super-super-supper-majority then anything that has a realistic chance of happening will be a disappointment.
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:00 AM
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6. The real question is: if we get slaughtered will the DLC'rs start listening to the left? |
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:03 AM
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7. Depends - will the left be generating any gained seats from "DLCers"? |
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I mean sure if you can replace Blanche Lincoln with A Kucinich type who can win in Arkansas I'll bet they will.
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:35 AM
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15. Yes. By promoting a more progressive agenda, like the public option, we can pick up seats. |
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It's not too late to give the American people what they will vote for - expanded Medicare or a public option.
We will never win the teabag vote.
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:41 AM
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I am not being sarcastic. But that has to come first. It has to be demonstrated that left leaning candidates can win, especially in swing states, before the left will have a significantly stronger voice though. The DLC types demonstrated that they can get elected, and get elected in staes like Arkansas and Tennessee. When the left wing of the party does the same you bet it will have a stronger voice.
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:04 AM
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8. I voted no. However, I think the damage will be limited and we'll still have the majority. n/t |
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:11 AM
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:13 AM
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Edited on Thu Apr-01-10 10:14 AM by TacticalPeek
There is nothing that I can imagine congressional Ds doing between now and November that reverses the tide that most professionals see coming - eg., Nate Silver, Charlie Cook etc.
As other posters noted above, the reasonable question is, How bad?.
My burnt offerings are going up to the God of Republican Fuckups.
<. . . relights . . .>
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:15 AM
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11. I Don't Like My Glasses In Rose Color (nt) |
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:17 AM
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12. Depends on how many Teebaggies run as a third party. |
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Edited on Thu Apr-01-10 10:18 AM by Kablooie
They could pull a lot of votes away from the GOP
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Jeff In Milwaukee
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:36 AM
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16. William Krystol says we're going to lose seats.... |
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:18 AM
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13. We need to make sure that real Democrats win |
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If only blue dogs, dlcers or dinos lose that would be the the preferable losses.
And real Democrats beat incumbent Republicans.
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:31 AM
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14. by January of 2008 it was considered a dead heat |
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and the media was actively promoting Obama and attacking Hillary and Democrats win in the general election was assumed by then too. And it came to pass.
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:37 AM
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17. Yep, tuse pundits to form a rational and informed opinion! |
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Edited on Thu Apr-01-10 10:38 AM by depakid
Come on now.
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Thu Apr-01-10 10:44 AM
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19. If the electronic voting and counting machines don't bite us in the ass that is |
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in actual votes cast we'll gain many seats in both houses but with that little diddy about the electronic vote counting and casting machines the bet is off
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Thu Apr-01-10 11:02 AM
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20. It is typical and very usual for the party in power to lose seats in an off year election. |
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This one will probably be no different.
Your poll should have presented other choices such as nothing changes, we lose a few seats, or we gain a few.
No, "they" are not wrong consistently enough to "take it to the bank". You present 1 example to support your theory, I'm sure there are many others that are contrary.
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