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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 12:14 PM
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Crazy From The Ground Up (re: last week's PROJECT to collect online wingnuttery)
DU Note: Last Wednesday, I started a thread titled "PROJECT: Collect online evidence of right-wing glee/approval of threats against Democrats." A whole bunch of you participated, and this is the article that came of it. The Truthout article has a link to that DU thread. Thank you for your excellent help with this; I hope I did your efforts justice.



(Image: Jared Rodriguez / t r u t h o u t; Adapted: Aaron Escobar, Grant Neufeld)

Crazy From The Ground Up
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

Thursday 01 April 2010

Author's Note: Sometimes, the best way to celebrate April Fools' Day is by spotlighting some actual there-but-by-the-grace-of-God-go-I fools, genuine and in the raw for all to see ... So, no, none of what follows is a joke. Alas. wrp/TO

The dark specter of broad-spectrum political violence stirred last week in America for the first time in a long while. Reports of threats and intimidation directed against Democratic lawmakers, and a few Republican officeholders, came in from all over, each more disturbing than the last:

The FBI is investigating a severed gas line at the home of Rep. Tom Perriello's (D-VA) brother. A local tea party group had posted the brother's address online, thinking it was Perriello's and calling for a protest there. Windows were broken across the country, at Rep. Gabrielle Gifford's Tucson office, Rep. Louise Slaughter's district office, and Democratic Party offices in Ohio, western New York and Kansas. (Someone also spray-painted the word "dorks" on one party office in Ohio.) House Minority Whip Eric Cantor also claimed someone shot a bullet into his campaign office, but local police say it was a random bullet that struck the office window.

Pictures of nooses were faxed to the offices of Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC), who is black, and Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI), who is white. Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) said his office in Kew Gardens, New York, received an envelope containing white powder and a threatening letter. Protestors showed up to Rep. Russ Carnahan's (D-MO) home with a coffin over the weekend after he voted in support of the health care reform bill.

Rep. Betsy Markey (D-CO) said she received two threatening phone calls after announcing that she would switch her vote on health care from no to yes. One caller said to a staffer, "Better hope I don't run into you in a dark alley with a knife, a club or a gun." Another said, "Better tell your boss that she better be careful when she comes back here to Colorado."

Rep. Vic Snyder (D-AR) said he received a letter that read, "Militia central has selected you for assassination. If we cannot stalk and find you in Washington, D.C., we will get you in Little Rock." Rep. Harry Mitchell (D-AZ) said he got death threats before and after the vote, and a note about health care was sent to his office along with coal and dog poop. Republicans also received threats: Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH) received a threatening voicemail and someone threw bricks through the window of the Republican Party headquarters in Albermarle, Va.

Wisconsin Democratic Reps. Steve Kagen and David Obey received phone threats after voting for health care. A spokeswoman for Kagen told a local paper that one staffer took a leave of absence due to stress after answering many of the calls. Iowa Democratic Reps. Bruce Braley and Rep. Dave Loebsack both told the Des Moines Register last week that they had received threats. Braley reported threats of physical violence, while Loebsack aides told the Register that the congressman has been sent "disturbing messages."


Both the "mainstream" and independent media have been focusing their coverage regarding these despicable events on Republicans in Congress and high-profile leaders of the right-wing media - Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity et al. - as the inspiration for these activities. To wit, the rhetoric coming from the GOP establishment and their media mouthpieces has inspired the far-right members of the party's base to act out in this fashion.

A closer examination, however, reveals this perspective to be entirely misplaced. It is an easy mistake to make, because by and large, we are all used to seeing images of ranters and ravers frothing at a podium to whip up a crowd into mob action. That's the pattern, one we have seen a thousand times.

This action is different. This action is coming from the ground up. GOP leaders aren't feeding lines to the mobs, but are receiving them from the mob. The same goes for the right-wing media stars, but this relationship is more insidious. In their case, people like Beck and Limbaugh hear the hoarse screams of the madding crowd, take in the invective and the threats, repackage them, and shout them back at the mob through a massive microphone. The result is an escalating spiral of frenzied fury, which has translated into the acts of violence and intimidation that have been reported in the aftermath of the passage of the health care reform bill.

In an effort to delve deeper into this phenomenon, I enlisted the help of some old friends on a popular online forum in an effort to collect hard evidence of GOP base activists and Tea Party members hurling threats and invective at both Democrats in Congress and at President Obama. The result was a noxious cornucopia of commentary from all over the web that proves my point: Republicans in Congress are getting their best lines from the worst elements of their base, and right-wing media platforms like Fox are cheering it all on for fun and profit.

One may feel it inappropriate or deceptive to point to the darkest and most deranged corners of the right-wing web as an example of the larger phenomenon. You don't have to look very far to find hate online, and under normal circumstances, using that hatred as a broad brush would be completely unfair; doing so would be the same as using a conversation thread from the white supremacist site Stormfront as an example of how all white people think.

But the problem here is that the fringes are the ones driving this behavior. It was a totally obscure and unknown blogger in Alabama who inspired the national spate of window-breaking, and another totally obscure blogger from Virginia who was responsible for ginning up the attack on the home of the brother of Representative Perriello. This violence is bubbling up from the bottom, and has become the defining attitude of many, if not most, GOP members of Congress and their media representatives. People need to see it for themselves, because the connection is impossible to miss.

Some chilling examples:

A thread on a site named "timebomb2000" asks the following question: "With this POC bill being shoved up our anus, and our beloved country going down the sewer, I guess I must ask what are you prepared to do? I believe I know what I will do, and I pray that I have the courage of my convictions to walk the walk."


Replies to this include:

"Those who ignore their oath's to protect and defend the Constitution, will face impeachment. Failing that, I will reach for the ammo box."

"Guess this is not the same country anymore that I have known in my life. This makes me not want to stay and live in this Socialist Commie society anymore."

"We have been discussing course of action all day with our extended family. More than that I should probably not say."

"If you want politicians to listen to your concerns, you should probably be an illegal alien with no health insurance wearing explosive underwear on a plane."

"The hell with bugging out. Know which hill you're willing to die on. And remember, you are bullet proof until God decides otherwise."

"This will not become a reality to the despots who now rule over us until the first shot is fired. I know it's coming. Find commonality in people around you and make contingency plans. That's what I am doing. That, and trying to get my wife to seriously consider how dire the situation is."

"Before me, my father and his friends and family fought a guerrilla war in the Philippines during WWII. Now, here we are with the enemy now ruling over us. They are in our lines. I feel like screaming WOLVERINES!"


Another thread from the same site perfectly exemplifies the attitude that has led to those threats against members of Congress:

I hope every single one of them is scared stiff. I hope that when a squirrel runs across their roof ... they wonder if it might be ... someone who is pissed off and desperate.

I hope they worry about their spouses, their kids, their parents. I hope they start wondering about whether or not someone knows where they live, the route they take to school or work, where they shop for groceries.

I hope they know that Obama has all the SS protection HE and HIS family need (well, they think he does, anyway) ... and their names and faces are out there with one heck of a lot less cover.

I hope they never get a decent night's sleep again - if they can sleep through the fact that they murdered the once-shining beacon of freedom, I hope they can't sleep for worrying about their own sorry, worthless hides.

Some people have LONG memories.


Facebook has become a commonly-used clearinghouse for this breed of rhetoric. The FB page Americans Who Want To Punch Nancy Pelosi has gathered over 4,000 members since its inception. Another FB page against the health care bill carries comments like, "We will slit the Democrat's throats at the ballot box this November." The poster was sharp enough to use the phrase "at the ballot box," but the menacing intent behind such language is impossible to miss.

As ever, the far-right web forum FreeRepublic led the way in providing incendiary rhetoric and threats of violence. The most recent prime example comes in a thread discussing president Obama's visit to Afghanistan. A sample of the commentary:

"Press Secretary Gibbs would not confirm or deny that Obama will have meeting with Osama bin Laden."

"The muslim apostate is in Kabul? For him that's a rather bold move."

"He might be afraid of the US military."

"Probably searching for Christ so he can crucify him."

"Osama Bin Ladin called Obama and told him to come over to Afghanistan for a Coffee together and Booze for the TOTUS! Is it any coincidence that Obama chooses the week that Osama comes out publicly twice? You gotta believe Osama knows everything about Obama's past that is hidden from Us!"

"To enhance security CAUCASIAN troop are banned from meeting the Resident."

"Wow, he looks so white."

"He wanted to fly over Siberia to see the Gulags for all the tea party people."

"The Muzlems know he is on an undercover jihadi mission pretending to be a Christian."

"We are being destroyed from inside. He has Muslim Brotherhood moles throughout the govt and militarty probably leaking intel to kill our troops."

"a nice meteor from Heaven would do a world of good."

"Calling all Afgan freedom fighters, cleanup on isle 4."


Any of this ring a bell from last week? It should. This is but a minuscule sample of the hate and venom being spewed across the web, a fair representation of the kinds of threatening messages Congressional Democrats have been receiving, and a fitting explanation for what has been going on across the country.

The effect has been dynamic, and goes far beyond the news reports we have been reading. In essence, the result is two-fold: on the one hand, the Republican leadership has stayed largely silent about the invective being hurled at Democrats, either because they condone it, or because they are themselves terrified of becoming the target of their own party's base. On the other hand, the stars of the right-wing media establishment are reveling in all this rage, channeling it and making it their own because it translates directly into ratings and profit.

Make no mistake about it. This crazy is going from the ground up. Rarely are we provided with a profile in cowardice on this level, but there it is. It will continue this way, and perhaps become worse, until the Republican leadership and their media mouthpieces take active steps to tamp it down, but I wouldn't hold my breath. The way things have been going, there may well be blood in the streets before the last chapter of this story is written.

http://www.truthout.org/crazy-from-ground-up58187
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 12:16 PM
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1. Crazy from the ground up
You said it, Will.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 12:27 PM
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2. That's a special kind of crazy.
I don't even think I could try to define it. I don't think I want to.

Good compilation, Will and DU.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 12:28 PM
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3. a kick for later
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 12:30 PM
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4. Excellent. K&R nt
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 12:48 PM
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5. Great article, Will, but don't kid yourself about the nature of RW Authoritarian Leaders
The Teabaggers are a Republican PsyOp.

How can I tell? By simply applying the "American Kremlinology" that has become so finely tuned after a decade. I can tell because, monolithically, EVERY mention of the Teabaggers in the Corporate M$M stresses how INDEPENDANT and LEADERLESS they are.

Just like in Soviet Russia in the 1970s. If Pravda and Isvestia are monolithic in it's repetetive statements of the "independence" of a certain movement, then you can be sure the opposite is true.

The modern Republic Party, in it's increasing RW Authoritarianism, is very much the mirror image of the old Soviet Communist Party.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 04:23 PM
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13. LOL
They would counter that Big Government control i.e., Healthcare, cap and trade, Financial Regulations etc is exactly defined as Marxism and therefore Liberals are the Authoritarians, in image of the old Soviet Communists.

It seems hard to counter when they aren't the ones in charge.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:05 PM
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19. Who pretty much controls and ties up the Senate with 41 votes?
Edited on Thu Apr-01-10 09:12 PM by tom_paine
To paraphrase an old Biblical saying "You shall know them by their fruits."

I would say that they still pretty much ARE in charge, considering the Democrats' health care bill has "many Republican ideas in it" (in Obama's own words), and that even THAT moderate RW Republican bill took more than a year to pass.

Let's just say that projection of the aggressors onto their victims is a chief characteristic of all forms of authoritarianism, as is the strong claiming to be victims of the weak and projection of their own characteristics on the weak.

For 8 years, BushCheney got virtually everything they wanted, often on a relatively short timetable. They did this even with Democratic "majorities" from 2006-2008.

They Democrats took 1 year+ to pass health care with 59 votes in the Senate.

If, rhetorically speaking, the Nazis say the Jews are serial propagandists who want to rule the word and the Jews say the Nazis are serial propagandists who want to rule the world, is is just a "he-said/she-said" both side-have-valid-points thing?

The political playing field has been so vastly shifted to the right it isn't funny. One side controls the legislature with 41 votes, the other can hardly pass legislation that compromises everything it's own party stands for with 59 votes.

To claim this is a "he-said/she-said" is almost as absurd as claiming the Nazi-Jews thing was a he-said/she-said in the face of overwhelming evidence of who is the actual authoritarian aggressor and who is the victim of authoritarianism.

There is so much more to expose the false-equivalency BS which you are buying into. Did the Left initiate the Patriot Act, MCA, or any of the other authoritarian measures now in place in our nation?

Does Corporate M$M fall all over itself to provide 24/7 coverage of 8,000 Teabaggers (AT MOST) while effectively creating news blackouts when the Left field hundreds of thousands, such as the Women's Rights march or the 2003 antiwar protests?

I don't know what to tell you. To an unobservant person, false-equivalency is apparently a very powerful marketing tool, but it is foolish to subscribe to it in the face of overwhelming evidence.

Why do the Democrats need 60 votes to pass anything now while for 8 years the Republicans needed 50?

(please, no junior high civics lectures about the filibuster, I know how it works but I am asking the question from a higher plane that a simple civics-lecture)

"You shall know them by their fruits."

Don't fall for the false-equivalency meme and spread the Bushigandists' squid-ink in the water for them.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 09:36 AM
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20. Your argument on congressional vote numbers is nonsensical
This was my whole point when I said early on Republicans have taken a stand against Obama they will not work with him therefore if Democrats were going to spend so much political capital on Healthcare Reform then it should have been a 51 vote fight to get Single Payer.

It is obvious that the fight in Healthcare was not between Republicans and Democrats it was a cadre of Moderate Democrats that muddied the waters. Now you can have opinions on why that was, but you will never be able to sell to independents that Democrats created Republican legislation, just to play fair.

Your point on projection being a characteristic of Authoritarians is true and Republicans and Independents would tell you (TODAY) that the party of Projection are the Democrats not the Republicans, they will back it up by telling you that Obama ran a campaign of pure projection and that is hard to argue, I tried i.e., In January 2009, I had die hard Conservatives where I work, tell me they thought Obama was going to be the most moderate President in history and now tell me he is a Marxist whose change mantra was actually a call to transform America from Capitalism to Socialism.

Your argument that we were so far Right that these small shifts to the left are needed for balance may be accurate but again it is a hard sell from an economic stand point i.e., here is the argument that I get on that point, Government creates government positions and offices because it tells the people that it needs to regulate business and corporations and to pay for more government we need to increase taxes which takes money out of the economy to grow government then drum roll please corporations pass the costs of these regulations and new taxes on to the consumers with increased costs and decresed hiring.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 10:40 AM
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21. No, it isn't, and neither did you address my other arguments but one
Edited on Fri Apr-02-10 11:05 AM by tom_paine
You remember, the one which you said "may be accurate, but again it is a hard sell".

But I'm not trying to SELL anything, but describe things as they are.

You focus on individual procedures and "moderate" Democrats, but I am looking at things from a plane above that relative minutiae.

You need to read about the Italian Legislature in the early 20s and the Reichstag in the early 30s, I think. Legislatures tied up in knots by a "Triumph of the Will" and the timidity/cowardice of the opposition.

As for your die-hard conservatives at work, they give a primary symptom of being RW Authoritarian followers, by changing their opinion diametrically NOT on the reality of the situation (Obama is a socialist by mandating profits for wealthy corporations :wtf: ) but on signals transmitted by THE PARTY propaganda machine that have no anchor in reality, because they don't need to.

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

I don't have to "sell" anyone on the fact that Obamacare resembles Romneycare resembles the Dole/Kemp Plan of the early 90s. Not only has Obama stated that himself, but you can easily find the specifics of said plans by doing a little research (I'll not do your research for you).

Finally, IF your economic argument was true then the converse should be true also. Which is to say that the decimation of New Deal regulation of finance and industry should have lead to an explosion of hiring and decreased consumer costs in the 2001-2008 period.

But it didn't. In fact, the decade of the 'Oughts was the first decade since the Great Depresion in which NO NEW NET JOBS WERE CREATED. (look it up - it was all over the news and you can Google the original report if you wish)

P.S. Thank you for debating civilly, that is something of a rarity here on DU, I am sorry to say.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 06:52 PM
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22. The Civility is borne of Respect.... thank you too...
My sell comment specifically relates to luring Independent minded voters back before the elections because it is they who will need to have their tarnished lens cleaned.

A further point, I was never agreeing with the positions, I think your characterization of the current Health Reform relations to Romney care are spot on but the Right continues to do a bang up job of turning this into a debate about Socialism versus Capitalism about raising taxes in the current economic mess and alot of their argument sticks because of the reality's currently being experienced in America.

The economic argument is the one that causes me the most consternation because it appears that the campaign slogan the Republicans are going to use is this. Democrats won control of Congress in the 2006 elections so ask yourself simply are you better off now or before they gained control followed with TV spots clipping Nancy Pelosi being sworn in as Speaker (2007) and Obama endlessly repeating Inherited deficits, Inherited mess in (2009) followed with any number of witty tag lines, i.e., (inherited from Whom?), (they claimed they would fix it and they made it worse)etc, etc,
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 12:57 PM
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6. K & R
:thumbsup:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:02 PM
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7. K&R
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:10 PM
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8. An Excellent Piece, Mr. Pitt!
"From the ground up" is exactly right; the mob is in the lead here, and the rightist politicians scurrying to try and appear to be in the lead of them.
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:16 PM
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9. k&r n/t
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:16 PM
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10. k&r n/t
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 03:26 PM
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11. Now,the media who helped it along..
are acting like they just discovered it was out there...
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 04:18 PM
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12. But what can be done?
It would only fuel the fire further if the President or Congress were to take up serious legislation on making this kind of hate talk illegal and punishable.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 04:24 PM
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14. You want crazy - listen here right now
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 05:43 PM
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15. Interesting. but not surprising to me.
I have kept tabs on these people for years....and it actually started in ernest during the Clinton years....Same MO.

Now that they lost to a black man they bring out the guns and the threats of violence and we are supposed to be so afraid of guns that we shrink away and give them what they want....and the craze's are there tool of intimidation.
I saw one picture that kind of gave away the strategy of the right....it was a picture of several big guns and the caption said;
"Intimidation! If you are good enough at it you don't need to fight"
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 06:06 PM
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16. You're gonna need a bigger boat.
Nice job as usual, Will.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 06:14 PM
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17. yup k&r
:kick:
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optimator Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 06:43 PM
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18. there is already "blood in the streets"
in Afghanistan.
I guess real violence is secondary to wimpy threats from repubs around here.
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