Man arrested for leaving pipe bomb packed with nails at abortion clinic - No terrorism charges?

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA042707.bombsuspect.e-n.14ca5d05.html

AUSTIN — A 27-year-old Austin parolee was charged today with use of weapons of mass destruction in connection with the discovery of a pipe bomb Wednesday in the parking lot of an abortion clinic, Austin police said.

Paul Ross Evans was arrested Friday morning following a search of his home Thursday night, law enforcement officials said. He was charged in federal court with using a weapon of mass destruction; manufacturing an explosive material, and violating a federal provision that guarantees freedom of access to clinic entrances. He remains in federal custody without bond, said Erik Vasys, spokesman for the FBI's San Antonio office.

On Wednesday, federal and local authorities were called to inspect a travel bag that had been left in the parking lot of the Austin Women's Health Center. Authorities quickly determined the bag contained a pipe bomb that was packed with nails and defused it. The bag had been spotted by an alert employee.

[Hobarticus]

1. He's being charged with using a "weapon of mass destruction"...

And he's being held without bond, AND he's a parolee...can't imagine terrorism charges are too far behind. Don't think you'll be seeing him in public for awhile.

[slackmaster]

3. FYI any improvised bomb with over 4 oz. of explosive is a "WMD" in Texas

It's a quirky definition, but that's what the law says.

[Hobarticus]

12. Fair 'nuff...lock 'em up.

The key word is "improvised".

[Warren DeMontague]

33. Jeeezus. I thought a vibrator was technically considered a WMD in Texas.

Didn't they send that vibrator lady to jail?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/02/11/obscenity.trial.reut/

[joshcryer]

8. Yeah, looks like this guy is toast. Open/shut.

[Dorian Gray]

36. Yeah...

he's got some pretty serious charges. Good.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. The WMD charge covers that

but as I wrote after the VT shooting, we have an internal terrorism problem, but the T word will not be used in internal affairs

[mod mom]

38. Unless African Americans are concerned:

FBI arrests 7 in alleged terror plot


   
NBC News and news services
Updated: 12:47 a.m. ET June 23, 2006

MIAMI - Seven people were arrested Thursday in connection with the early stages of a plot to attack Chicago’s Sears Tower and other buildings in the U.S., federal law-enforcement sources told NBC News.

FBI agents swarmed over a warehouse in Miami's Liberty City area, using a blowtorch to take off its metal door. Neighbors said the suspects said they were Muslim and had tried to recruit young people to join their group, which seemed militaristic.

The men — part of a radical Black Muslim group — were planning terror acts in Miami and Chicago, officials say.

-snip
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13491653/

:mad:

[MOD]

4. He has just been arrested, jeez.

Sounds like the feds are doing their job.

[wicket]

5. K & R

:kick:

[NightWatcher]

6. if he were brown, it'd be on the MSM

if his name were Ali..... we'd be an high alert again.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

27. no shit.

but attacks against legal establishments in the name of a warped religious belief are ok. But only if it was their warped religious belief.

[Forkboy]

7. Bombing is only bad depending on the target.

[Mrs. Overall]

9. Tie yourself to an old growth redwood tree that is about to be cut down

and you are charged with being an "eco-terrorist." Individuals who free lab rats are also "terrorists." So far, only interfering with logging and pharmaceuticals gets you labeled a domestic "terrorist."

[gratuitous]

14. You can also get called a terrorist

If you spray paint an SUV with a little truth-in-labeling about its gasoline consumption. Not that I've ever done such a thing, so cool your jets, Agent Mike. Just reporting on what I've seen.

[endarkenment]

10. The WMD charge is bullshit.

That law is crap. A pipebomb is not a WMD. A nuclear bomb is a WMD.

[Hobarticus]

13. Unless, you get a pipebomb blown off next to you...

The definition does you little comfort if you've been severely injured by one.

[Beelzebud]

16. That still doesn't make a pipe bomb WMD. A pipe bomb can't destroy a city.

Going by your logic here we DID find WMD in Iraq...

[Hobarticus]

17. Navel-gazing, at best...

But, have fun.

[Beelzebud]

18. So every IED that goes off in Iraq is a WMD? Thats what you're saying.

You're using a definition of the word that implies Bush was correct to invade Iraq.

Using your definition, I have WMD in my house right now. I have a container of gun powder.

[Hobarticus]

20. Uh, no, I'm not. Calm down.

Wow, nice stretch of context there. Any other false conclusions you'd like to make, before we're done here?

I didn't write the law. If you feel compelled to petition Texas to come up with another name, knock yourself out.

Sorry the world isn't exactly as you please, it must be rough.

[Beelzebud]

21. ...

[Hobarticus]

22. Brilliant in it's simplicity. eom

[Igel]

25. Hobarticus got it right.

If Iraq were suddenly under the jurisdiction of the State of Texas, then every IED would be a weapon of mass destruction.

If you want fun with definitions, read Chomsky's works on linguistics over the years. Lots of words with quirky definitions. It's standard practice to use a term in a meaning you define; as long as you don't let it tacitly shift meaning mid argument, and you don't suddenly apply the new definition to places where it doesn't fit, there's no harm done. If you can't keep the definitions straight by context, then you're screwed.

And by "straight", please don't assume I must mean heterosexual. It's another one of those words with more than one definitions. (Come to think of it, "term" and "screw" also have multiple definitions. And "come", too.)

[porphyrian]

11. If it was left in the parking lot, it wasn't meant to blow up the clinic...

...it was meant to kill people in the parking lot, especially with the nails (that's anti-personnel, not anti-building). They need to lock that sick fuck up for the rest of his life.

[rasputin1952]

19. I concur, this was an anti-personnel device. However it should

also be considered an act of terrorism. Here in NE, they use "terroristic threat" if you say you'll kick the crap out of someone, which I think is bogus. While conveying a threat, the substance has little to do with "terrorism".

Seems to me that "terrorism" is a flavor of the day...I think gang related violence is terroristic, as is KKK/nazi stuff as well...but there are just no realistic definitions of terrorism that are adhered to in this country. Laws made through expedience are usually troublesome, just look at the "Patriot Act", (should be called the "Constitution Shredder" AFAIC).

[porphyrian]

28. No arguments from me. - n/t

[kysrsoze]

34. Wait. Won't that kill the precious foetuses too? So pro-life, eh?

[porphyrian]

35. Don't poke holes in their delusion! It's fragile enough as it is!

Yes, they are completely insane.

[Beelzebud]

15. We have cheapened language. A pipe bomb is NOT WMD...

Mass Destruction implies mass destruction. Like a city being blown up.

This Christian Terrorist should be charged with terrorism, and illegal explosives.

[w4rma]

23. See Bush found WMDs in Iraq! Nail propelled pipe-bombs galore and other IEDs.

I know what you're saying. This cheapening of the English language is a pet peeve of mine.

[Dragonbreathp9d]

24. Wow, cheers to the alert employee! Prob saved many lives.

[corkhead]

26. Didn't you get the memo? It's only terrorism when brown people do it.

:grr:

[mikelgb]

29. they found wmd

seems the ones that hate us for our freedom to choose are fighting us here eventhough we are fighting overthere in Iraq

[rasputin1952]

30. Interesting....I never bought into the "they hate us for our...

freedoms" BS, and I don't think anyone else here did either.

But this goomer hates the freedom a woman that he does not even know, can have over her body. Amazing hypocrisy...:crazy: The whole idea of leaving the pipe bomb in the parking lot was to produce an element of fear/hysteria within a group of people, precisely what "terrorism" is. Seems to me "they" have been here all along, we can't knock out our homegrown terrorists, while bush/cheney swear that Divisions of Airborne terrorists are on their way here from the ME...:wtf:

FWIW...the "shoe bomber" had less explosive material than this guy, and the only nails involved would have been toenails, people were willing to drag him through the streets of America, but this yahoo, w/his pipebomb, isn't seen as a "terrorist?"...:shrug:

[omega minimo]

31. Man arrested for leaving pipe bomb packed with nails at Women's Health Clinic

[Warren DeMontague]

32. So how come when cops find a flashlight left behind by a homeless guy in a Starbucks

bathroom, CNN breathlessly reports that it was a possible terror-related "I.E.D.".

I wonder what the odds are this will get any national coverage at all.

[madokie]

37. hey we're fighting terrar'ism over there remember not over here

what a crock this whole misadministration and the enablers are