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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 04:49 PM
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Should we not allow felons free speech rights or freedom of religion?
It seems we can restrict other things (voting, owning a piece of metal called a gun, etc).
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 04:50 PM
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1. I certainly have no problem with felons being restricted from legally owning a gun
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 04:52 PM
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2. Depends on what kind of felony.
Edited on Thu Apr-01-10 04:52 PM by OneTenthofOnePercent
There are a ton of stupid felonies on the books.
I'll bet most of DU has committed a felony one way or another and just not known it.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 04:58 PM
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3. yeah - I guess there are "felonies", then there are felonies
But . . . I would still not have a problem with extending the restriction to anyone commiting (and being convicted of) a felony.

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 04:59 PM
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4. Post-sentence restrictions suck. (nt)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 05:00 PM
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5. So long as they've paid their debt to society, prison term or fine, the answer is yes, otherwise
Edited on Thu Apr-01-10 05:01 PM by Uncle Joe
we endanger our own claim to those rights.

Thanks for the thread, The Straight Story.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 05:01 PM
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6. Depends on what we mean by "paying your debt to society"
If we aren't going to restore full constitutional rights after someone has served their sentence, we should stop using this phrase because we have created a "debt" that can never be repaid.

If we don't think the jail sentences for certain crimes are sufficient, OK, let's increase them. But once the term has been served, that should constitute full punishment for the crime. No further restrictions should apply.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 05:41 PM
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7. Any person who lost their civil rights because of criminal conviction and had those rights restored
without exception enjoy all the rights a person enjoys who has never been convicted.

Most states and the federal government have legal processes that allow such people to have their rights restored however the federal government does not fund agencies that would restore some of those rights.

IMO that's immoral since the law permits restoration of rights but presidents by inaction deny restoration of fundamental rights. That includes Dem & Rep presidents.
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