Bob Shieffer CBS News, and People Magazine agree.. Church has very serious problem

[Stuart G]

Bob Shieffer gave a comment on the Pope..It is at the Huffington Post here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/04/bob-schieffer-catholic-ch_n_524722.html

And a relatively late issue of People Magazine also has an article about it. People Magazine described the priests action graphically, and the cover up in detail.

These mainstream sources agree. The Roman Catholic Church is in very serious trouble that goes far beyond an isolated incident. I personally doubt that this story will go away. Good.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. society would be in serious trouble if the story went away,

and as hard as the church is trying to control the conversation, the internet, and the scope of the abuses committed just recently are enough to keep it alive. I foresee the Irish politely inviting the RC Church to go fuck themselves, and to leave their country. Germans are already talking about litigation against the pope. English barristers are working on ways to attack the Pope's claim of sovereignty.

Despite the billions and billions paid here because of the sex crimes committed by RC priests, there still is no single movement pushing on the entire organization. That is by design. The catholic church, and its many paid political supporters, has successfully splintered what it considers "the opposition".

The Church is used to controversy, having caused so much in its 2000 history. It has always taken the long view. As an example, the jesuits, (the spies, the eyes and the ears of the Vatican) have regular meetings, planning their (and the church's) future. Regular, as in every 50 years. Many of them within the Vatican really think that this latest blow up will disappear over time, just like the church's many crimes in the past were swept under the rug. But those devious, old, pampered, arrogant, old men haven't grasped the impact of instant global communication, and the ability of Americans and Irish to react and take into account the abuse, the cover ups, and the lies the Church committed in England, Germany or Canada. When people begin to put it all together, the church loses.

Until and unless a massive step is taken, ie, Pope Rat resigning, this will fester and get worse. Given the inability of the Church to ever admit to a mistake, much less a global conspiracy to shield its hundreds of pedphile child sex abusers from prosecution, the festering will be with us for a long time.

[Stuart G]

3. Shieffer's last sentence in his comment agrees, and you are correct too

People will not support a Church where they feel their children are not safe.

You are one hundred percent correct also:

"Until and unless a massive step is taken, ie, Pope Rat resigning, this will fester and get worse. Given the inability of the Church to ever admit to a mistake, much less a global conspiracy to shield its hundreds of pedphile child sex abusers from prosecution, the festering will be with us for a long time.

[customerserviceguy]

4. I'm sure most Catholics have a disconnect

between what they feel is happening in their parish, and what has, or may be happening, in other places. It's like where you hate Congress, but re-elect your own representative, because he/she is 'different'.

However, the slow death of this ancient religion will occur from within. It's not like Catholics from First World countries are having a gazillion kids anymore, and can spare a few towards a celibate lifestyle. Nope, they're not pushing their kids towards religious vocations they way they were when I was a kid, and that's going to starve the beast eventually.

[SharonAnn]

5. They now import priests from the Phillipines, Ireland, Kenya, Puerto Rico

These are a few of the new ones I've met in the last 5 years.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

6. that serial mexican pedophile not only brought millions to the vatican,

he sexually initiated boys and girls for decades. While he was still alive both the Rat and JP the Twoth agreed to sit on the allegations because his ministry was so profitable AND had provided close to 1/3 of the initiates for priesthood. 1/3 of the total initiates for the entire world.

Once he died, stories began to leak out. To hear the vatican tell it, that's sperm under the bridge.

[customerserviceguy]

7. Yes, and they still draw from minority populations in America

I've heard about Vietnamese priests, etc. But as those groups attain prosperity, they shrink the size of their families, and will do the same thing that Polish and Italian Catholics have been doing.

[FiveGoodMen]

8. "People will not support a Church where they feel their children are not safe"

Really?

I grew up in a mainstream church that set time aside to tell the young children that if an invisible voice gave the order, the parents were required (and ready) to murder us, their own kids.

[SpiralHawk]

2. "I prophesy the Pope will admit he has Republicon Family Values." - Nostradim-mouse

"And that because he has Republicon Pharisee Family Values, everyone should STFU and let him bask in the warmth of a Traditional Standing O from his Cabal O' Republicon Fellow Travelers."

- Nostradim-mouse