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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:37 AM
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Smoking Is Dumb: Young Men Who Smoke Have Lower IQs, Study Finds
ScienceDaily (Apr. 2, 2010) — "Only dopes use dope," goes the memorable warning about drugs. Now a Tel Aviv University researcher cautions that the same goes for cigarettes.

A study led by Prof. Mark Weiser of Tel Aviv University's Department of Psychiatry and the Sheba Medical Center at Tel Hashomer Hospital has determined that young men who smoke are likely to have lower IQs than their non-smoking peers. Tracking 18- to 21-year-old men enlisted in the Israeli army in the largest ever study of its kind, he has been able to demonstrate an important connection between the number of cigarettes young males smoke and their IQ.

The average IQ for a non-smoker was about 101, while the smokers' average was more than seven IQ points lower at about 94, the study determined. The IQs of young men who smoked more than a pack a day were lower still, at about 90. An IQ score in a healthy population of such young men, with no mental disorders, falls within the range of 84 to 116.

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"In the health profession, we've generally thought that smokers are most likely the kind of people to have grown up in difficult neighborhoods, or who've been given less education at good schools," says Prof. Weiser, whose study was reported in a recent version of the journal Addiction. "But because our study included subjects with diverse socio-economic backgrounds, we've been able to rule out socio-economics as a major factor. The government might want to rethink how it allocates its educational resources on smoking."


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:38 AM
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1. Cigarettes contain electrolytes. Plants crave it. n/t
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:47 AM
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4. We're vegetables?
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:23 PM
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27. The Brawndo CEO would agree. n/t
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:42 AM
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2. Correlation is not causation. Smoking cigarettes doesn't make one stupid.
I think the link IS the stupidity.
Stupid people have low IQs. Stupid people deliberately poison their bodies - acting on impulse and lacking foresight.

I didn't even need an expensive grant to figure that one out... :D
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:49 AM
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5. agreed. nt
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:50 AM
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7. No, but being stupid may make one smoke
:)
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:53 AM
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8. Touche! n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 12:22 PM
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20. However, there was a study about 10 years ago
that did cognitive testing among deprived smokers, satisfied smokers, and non smokers. It found the highest scores among nonsmokers and the lowest among deprived smokers, as they expected.

What they didn't expect to find what that the satisfied smokers had scores that were nearly as low as the deprived smokers, although they were improved somewhat.

Nicotine gives smokers the illusion of mental clarity. It doesn't actually do it, much the way alcohol doesn't actually make a drinker better looking and more articulate.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:43 AM
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3. ø
:popcorn:
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:50 AM
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6. i just ran out. hold my seat...


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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:32 AM
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18. There's a new breastfeeding thread, too. What to do, what to do
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:07 AM
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9. but the twin study is interesting. Smoking twin: lower IQ
Similar genes, same socioeconomic background. Yet the twin who smokes has lower IQ.
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:11 AM
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10. Smoking is a dumb act not all who smoke are dumb, I smoke and my IQ is 131 but...
I am a bit lazy and have an addictive personality so... I didn't start smoking until I was 21 and in college so maybe that statistic doesnt apply to me.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:14 AM
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11. I've known geniuses who smoked. Does this mean they would have had higher IQs if they hadn't?
BTW One had an IQ of 185.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:20 AM
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12. bullshit science.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:22 AM
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13. Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Everyone sing along:
to the tune of Camptown Ladies...

Do dah.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:22 AM
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14. What's dumb is continuing to believe smoking is the ONLY cause for
many of the ailments assigned to it.

Even the World Health Organization admits that while smoking is down, lung cancer is up; therefore, ailments of this nature are caused by a wide variety of toxins and toxic-lifestyles (pollution, little exercise, overeating, stress, etc.).

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:24 AM
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15. Class bias is obviously a major factor in the "objective" sciences...
Wonder what the correlation between poverty, smoking, and so-called "low iq" is? :shrug:
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:24 AM
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16. Smoking is about as dumb as it gets
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 11:27 AM by ProgressiveProfessor
Yet the government subsidizes it and protects tobacco exports. That needs to stop. Cut it loose and let it die a commercial death

The only real issue will be the loss of sin taxes that some were so foolish as to use to fund non-smoking related programs

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:30 AM
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17. Big surprise. nt
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 12:21 PM
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19. So does smoking cause low IQ or low IQ cause smoking? n/t
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:20 PM
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22. The conclusion of the study is that persons with low IQ tend to make bad health choices
So a possible policy implication is that progams to reduce the number of people who start smoking should target low IQ youngsters.

I suppose that the media could portray smoking as associated with preppy kids and conformist in general.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:30 PM
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23. I would enjoy a study that concluded smoking marijuana led to the Oval Office. n/t
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:12 PM
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21. Just compared this to the "lower IQ means more religion" thread from two weeks ago.
Just compared this to the "lower IQ means more religion" thread from two weeks ago. Odd contrasts in justifications for both the acceptance and the denial of the conclusions... :P
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:44 PM
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24. Do they realize all the greatest minds of the 20th century were smokers? LOL. n/t
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 01:44 PM
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25. If IQ was anything more than a product of linear algebra
that might be more interesting. IQ what a myth.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:20 PM
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26. It's the other way around, people with low IQs start smoking.
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 03:21 PM by Odin2005
Most smokers I know that are under 30 are not the smartest knives in the drawer. While at the same time I know very few intelligent people under the age of 30 that smoke.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:24 PM
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28. I got 1500/1600 on my SATs, and yet, I smoke.
I'm a college student and I need the little extra bit of energy nicotine gives me. I'll try to quit after graduating.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:54 PM
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29. I Smoked For Almost 20 Years, And I'm a Super Genius.
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