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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:32 PM
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Ear-rack.... or EYE-rack ?
Why does it seems that war-supporters go for EYE and non-supporters like EAR?


What, ahem , is the "correct" pronunciation?
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:33 PM
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1. Let's just pick another facial feature and go with
Nose-Rack!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:35 PM
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2. I believe ear-rahk, with a trill of the 'R'. n/t
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:42 PM
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7. A-drdrdrdrdrdrdrdrd
:P
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:57 PM
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12. Yup nt
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:29 PM
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24. Correct. (NT)
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:48 PM
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31. Close. Per the Iraqi sitting here with me...
The name in Arabic is Al-Irāq, and the second part is generally pronounced e-rock, with a rolled r.

He also said that nearly every pronounciation mentioned in this thread is technically correct. Iraq, like most nations, has regional accents and variations in pronounciation. Eye-rack, ee-rock, ee-rack, irack...there are native Iraqi's who use all of those pronounciations.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:55 PM
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36. That's interesting. Ditto Iran?
>>>>He also said that nearly every pronunciation mentioned in this thread is technically correct. Iraq, like most nations, has regional accents and variations in pronunciation. Eye-rack, ee-rock, ee-rack, irack...there are native Iraqi's who use all of those pronounciat>>>

Generally the Americans who say EYErack also say EYEran. And vice-versa.
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dannward Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:05 PM
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37. EE-rock and EYE-ran?
Interesting -- I find myself pronouncing them ee-rock and eye-ran. I can't tell you why I don't use the same pronunciation on the two....
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 08:48 PM
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42. Yes
Iran is officially pronounced e-ron.

Of course, Iran also has a number of minorities that speak a number of different languages, and they have a number of different names for the country. "e-ron" is simply the pronounciation of the official Persian language name for the country.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:32 PM
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49. Makes perfect sense, thanks from a merakun.
:rofl:

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:35 PM
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3. It's 'ear-rock' ak-shully.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 08:54 PM
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43. +1
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:35 PM
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4. well everyone from vermont/new hampshire gets i-dears
regardless of their political stripe

maybe its an accent :sarcasm:
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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:41 PM
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5. E-rock but with that rolling tongue kind of thing on the rock part.
That is the way a couple Iranian friends taught me to pronounce Iran back in the early 80's. I think the same pronunciation applies to Iraq.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:50 PM
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9. That's exactly right. n/t
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:12 PM
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21. It's more like Ear-rock with the accent on "rock"
and, yeah, with a hint of that rolling tongue thingie. And it's a bit strung together to sound almost like a single syllable.



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canoeist52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:42 PM
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6. Informed people are against wars?
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:05 PM
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19. Generally. nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:46 PM
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8. Because real Americans talk American and don't cotton to no foreign talkin'
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:54 PM
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10. Wolf Blitzer calls it O-Rock
as well as a few other media people I've heard.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:55 PM
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11. "eye-rack" always sounds to me like someone is deliberately being ignorant. nt
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:04 PM
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18. Mmmm. That's always been my suspicion.
That they're deliberately mispronouncing it as a way to communicate contempt.

But it's so commonplace now... seems as though EYE is gaining general acceptance even among people you'd think would know better.... that I began to suspect my own suspicion.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:33 PM
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26. I always have the feeling they'd pronounce it "Camel Jockeyland" if they could get away with it.
Even though there are no camels. It's certainly the same crowd whose
bumpers sport the sticker "I'd fly 10,000 miles to smoke a camel!"
(and yes, that's real).

Tesha
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:39 PM
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28. Like saying "Eye-talian" or "Democrat Party"
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:57 PM
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13. ih - rock
Eye Rack usage is limited to the red states with massive Tea Bagger populations.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:11 PM
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20. No!!!! At least not anymore.
>>>>Eye Rack usage is limited to the red states with massive Tea Bagger populations.>>>>

It's used commonly here ( NYC). Yesterday I called the Bronx VA hospital and the phone system mentioned a special program or set of options for "EYE-rackie" veterans.

Perhaps military culture tends to absorb southern regionalisms? But I hear it on the streets also.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:58 PM
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14. Depends on if you're Irish or EYE-talian.
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Cresent City Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:37 PM
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51. We say "eye-talian" in Noo Awlins
We do not however say "N'Awlins".
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:59 PM
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15. Quagmire n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:59 PM
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16. For the win.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:00 PM
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17. I always say it Ah-rack
I am a non-supporter, if this makes any difference.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:13 PM
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23. Sounds like you're splitting the difference. nt
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:13 PM
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22. ear-ROCK
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:51 PM
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33. ROCK. You're right. I'm getting sloppy too. nt
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 05:51 PM by Smarmie Doofus
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:31 PM
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25. You'd think we would get a set pronunciation of the country where we've been at war for years
and lost thousands of lives, ours and theirs, created millions of war refugees, and spent billions of dollars.

I believe that Bush pronounced it ear-rack. I have heard that the soldiers tend to call it eye-rack.

Still there does not seem to be one pronunciation that is accepted as generally correct.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:35 PM
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27. One might ask an Iraqi. Or an Iranian. They probably know how to pronounce it.
Hint: It *AIN'T* EYE-rack!

Tesha
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:48 PM
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30. I'm thinking we can't be bothered.
See my comment upthread # 18:


>>>That they're deliberately mispronouncing it as a way to communicate contempt.

But it's so commonplace now... seems as though EYE is gaining general acceptance even among people you'd think would know better.... that I began to suspect my own suspicion.>>>>
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:42 PM
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29. I believe it's pronounced "Vietnam."
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:50 PM
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32. 2-shay. Or should I say......
TOO-shay.

As in "The second time around is just TOO much."
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:52 PM
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34. I remember Vietnam when it was Viet Nam. n/t
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:54 PM
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35. I always thought of the "eye" pronuciation as ignorant. Like "eye-talians",
those from "eye-taly".
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:08 PM
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38. Ur-rock.
Or as Simon and Garfunkel sang: "I am Iraq, I am an Island."

I guess those guys needed a geography lesson. ;-)
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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:11 PM
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39. How about Ur Rack?
That was how my translator pronounced it many years ago in Saudi Arabia.
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:16 PM
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40. I heard Christiane Amanpour say it is E-Rack and E Ran. nt
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 09:23 PM
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46. I saw that also.
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 09:24 PM by conscious evolution
My nieghbor from Iran pronounces it Persia.
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:19 PM
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41. eye-rack ear-ron
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shedevil69taz Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 09:01 PM
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44. I dunno what others call it really
I just reffer to it as the ashtray of the world.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 09:02 PM
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45. E-rawk
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:14 PM
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47. ee-RAHK
in Arabic the R is rolled and "q" indicates a "k" sound pronounced way far back in the mouth, on the uvula.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:55 PM
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52. Yep.
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:16 PM
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48. Ear - Rock.
With the "ck" part of rock said further back in the throat than a normal "k" sound if you want to get specific.

But I try not to get too picky since knowing a second language in the USA is so often considered silly or tatamount to treason.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:33 PM
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50. you say tomato.....
I say nukular.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 04:34 AM
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53. eeeee-ROCK.. n/t
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