Whoa, now that all of the minutia is digested, can we back the fuck up?

[Duer 157099]

What the fuck are US soldiers doing, in 2007, patrolling Baghdad neighborhoods with Apache helicopters and Bradley vehicles.

NO, REALLY, I want to know.

How long ago was that war declared officially over? How many years?

How many elections did they have, how many times have we handed over the government, the police, their military, I mean, WTF???

WTF were we STILL doing there in 2007???

And WTF are we still doing there NOW????

Goddammit!

[tekisui]

1. KNR!

[Orrex]

2. If you can think of a better way to win their hearts and minds, I'd like to hear it.

Nothing says "we care" like unaccountable murder and cover-up.

[Oregone]

10. Murder?

If you look LONG and HARD enough at the video, its clear beyond day that one of the men on the ground flipped the camera the bird, another one mooned the chopper and a third looked like Keanu Reeves. It wasn't murder then, but justified extermination. This is all laid out earlier:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8100321&mesg_id=8100321

[Orrex]

11. Well, heck!

Being flipped the bird is all the justification you need to exterminate the flipper, kill his family, and burn down his house.


What was I thinking?!?

[Greyhound]

19. You fucker!

You really had me going there, and I just replaced my mouse when Omega M got me the night before last, now I need another keyboard! I live in 25 miles outside of the middle of nowhere and I can't be driving into the city every day or two to get these peripherals.
:rofl:
Semi-serious question; When did it become acceptable for a Mod to come into the forum he/she moderates and post flame-bait?
:kick: & R

[Lerkfish]

32. odd, I'm ignoring the author of that thread.

sounds lIke I have good judgement.

[Soylent Brice]

24. no shit, right?

:(

[Oregone]

3. Looking for journalists to exterminate

[WillyT]

4. HUGE K & R !!!

:yourock:

:kick:

[Cleita]

5. I thought we went to Baghdad to get Saddam and his sons.

Well we got them, so why are we still there? Maybe it was the Iraqi oil we went to get?

[Oregone]

8. Spreading freedom, kicking ass and eliminating burkas

USA! USA! USA!

[tavalon]

16. You thought wrong

We're there for the oil. The oil is still there and it's ours. Every other lie about why we went to war with Iraq are well, lies.

[Ignis]

27. "After all, this is the guy who tried to kill my dad." -- AWOL

Sure, Saddam's dead, but there's also money to be made in Iraq!

[SpiralHawk]

6. "Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)

[SpiralHawk]

7. "Sneer." - xVP Dickie 'Five-Military-Deferments' Cheney (R)

[Catshrink]

9. I don't think

I've ever seen this put so well, so succintly, so beautifully. WTF are we still doing there?

[Duer 157099]

12. It's sort of like one of those "come to Jesus" moments isn't it?

This event might just have enough power to finally help the scales fall from many eyes.

It may take a few more days, but it has that much punch, imho. OTOH, I really spent time with the minutia.

Perhaps this was yet another reason they wanted to conceal it?

[Ishoutandscream2]

13. Preach it, Brotha!! A big K and R!!!

Very, very well said. Excellent rant!!

[arcane1]

14. I've been wondering why we have to "train" their police and miltary at all

since they seemed to have had both all along. :shrug:

[WillyT]

15. Dude... You're ALIVE !!!

:bounce::woohoo::bounce:

And just in time for Easter!!!

:rofl:

:evilgrin:

:hi:

How ya doin???

:shrug:

[arcane1]

18. I'm feeling resurrected! :)

:hi:

[Greyhound]

20. It is an easy way to justify the $600M and 6 years that disappeared down the rat-hole.

But it's all just fine, the General that failed to train the police, failed to hold the gains won in the first months, and failed to successfully cover-up another infamous murder of one of our soldiers (the name Pat Tillman still ring any bells here?), is now in charge of the wholesale slaughter with the approval of this "Democratic" administration.

Oh yes, although he did fail to train the police for 6 years, he did succeed in losing aver 100,000 weapons that were supposed to be for those police he hasn't trained.

Oops, almost forgot, there's also ~100,000 police uniforms missing out there, so we can't be sure if that cop is a cop.

Yes, this is going just splendidly.

[arcane1]

22. "Oops, I perpetuated the mess! How'd that happen?"

;)

[progressoid]

17. Pretty soon we'll kick the winning field goal and get out of there.

As soon as we find the goal posts. Somebody keeps moving them.

[Recursion]

21. Surging, but not doing it the right way

The point of the "surge" was that this kind of stuff (gunships wasting large groups of military-aged men) was supposed to end: boots on the ground would keep an eye on things, conduct civil affairs ops, and after contact call in heavier strikes when necessary. The gunships were still there because there were still large armed groups attacking people; in theory they were supposed to be hanging back waiting for the infantry (or, better yet, Iraqi security) to figure out what the hell was going on.

[mudplanet]

23. Good Fucking Question!

[Orsino]

25. War was never officially declared.

We shouldn't have gone in.

[KonaKane]

31. And hasn't been since the end of WWII.

It never ceases to amaze me how some holler so loudly about adhering to every nanimeter of the Constitution, yet the original War Powers section has just been dismissed due to lack of interest.

[grahamhgreen]

26. Good point! nt

[Ignis]

28. TERRA TERRA BOOGA BOOGA!

Let's face facts:

There was no good reason for the US to invade Iraq in 2003.

There was no good reason for US soldiers to shoot up Iraqi civilians in 2007.

There is no good reason for US troops to still be in Iraq in 2010.

Cui bono?


Edit: What year is it again?

[The_Commonist]

29. It's 2010.

Just sayin'...

[Ignis]

30. ...And I still don't have a jetpack!

Thanks for the catch. :hi: