If Bush & Cheney were impeached, would Pelosi as President pardon them?

[BigBearJohn]

Thoughts?

[Hawkeye-X]

1. Only if he leaves all of his assets and everything to the US government

and asks his war profiteers to repartition Iraq themselves.

No countries help.

[Forkboy]

2. One step at a time

:)

[Eagle_Eye]

8. First they have to be impeached

First the House votes to impeach
Then the Senate votes to remove
All of this takes time. The Democrats need to start NOW if they are to remove Bush before he leaves office in 2009. After January 20, 2009 the point is moot.

[alphafemale]

3. Gee....I have to think about that a minute.

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


That'd be a "Hell, No!"

[gipper66]

4. three way

only if it involved a cheney-bush three way.

[RufusTFirefly]

5. A pardon would be OK. Here's why

I think the key thing is to prove that the Constitution still has legitimacy.

When a President or Vice President is accused of high crimes and misdemeanors, he (or she) should be impeached and then removed from office if convicted.

I think there's a good international case to me made that both Bush and Cheney (as well as Rice and Rumsfeld) are war criminals. Pelosi's pardon, as far as I know, would be domestic only, and so any international accusations of war criminality would fall outside the pardon's jurisdiction and could be pursued to resolution.

[AndyA]

6. No, a pardon would not be OK. It would make what they did a slap on the wrist.

It would send a message to future Presidents, perhaps with even more sinister goals than Bushco, that you can violate the oath of office, act against the Constitution, and act in bad faith against the American people, and you'll get away with it.

Nixon did.

Bush/Cheney did.

And they were pardoned. So, in the long run, no foul.

No, they would need to serve prison time for their crimes. It's the only way justice would be served, and it's the only way to send a strong message to future Presidents that they must uphold the standards, not break the law.

Would you get a break if you robbed a bank? NO. Why should Bush/Cheney?

[kdmorris]

7. Pelosi wouldn't be President

I don't see anyway to have absolute simultaneous trials, so one of them will have to go first. Let's say Cheney. So... Cheney gets impeached and is convicted. Bush immediately appoints.. Let's say... Tom Delay as Vice President. Go with whatever conservative you want. Then Bush gets his turn at impeachment. He's convicted as well.

So, Tom Delay becomes president and you bet your ass he will pardon them.

[Swamp Rat]

9. Whoa!

[kdmorris]

10. OMG Scary!!! n/t

[MrSlayer]

12. Does he just get to appoint the VP or does it have to go through Congress?

I'm going to look it up. The very idea of him being able to appoint someone like DeLay without any restrictions is frightening.

[kdmorris]

13. He would appoint one

The Senate has to confirm. Kind of like a Cabinet position. There's no way in hell Delay would really be the choice, but let's say it was McCain. McCain would still pardon them. Any conservative would.

[MrSlayer]

14. Yes.

I just looked it up. Both houses would have to do it according to section 2 of the 25th amendment. A simple majority is needed. We might be able to hold out in the House for someone we want.

[kdmorris]

20. I learned something today

I didn't realize it was both houses of Congress, but it appears you are right. So, whomever Bush appointed would have to be REALLY moderate and above suspicion. I don't know if Bush knows anyone like that :evilgrin:

[MrSlayer]

11. A pardon would require them to concede that they were guilty.

And that'll never happen. They'd be more likely to bump off Pelosi than accept a pardon.

[MiniMe]

15. Nixon stepped down and was pardoned before he was impeached

Ford wanted to avoid that messy trial that was coming. So there was no "guilty" verdict. If chimpy and Dick were actually impeached, they would have completed all of the investigations and the trial. If all of *co's crimes come out, I doubt a pardon would be in order.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

16. Thoughts?

What about if I were President? What then? What if a goat were President? Or a block of wood? Or Jesus?

[WA98296]

17. Pardon criminals? That's why the public perceives ALL politicans as corrupt.

[Freddie Stubbs]

18. Probably not

Pelosi would not become President, as there are not enough Democrats in the Senate to convict and remove Bush and Cheney.

[ThomWV]

19. Absolutly Not

Prison - nothing else will do.