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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:26 PM
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So we are sure this Muslim cleric Aulaqi is still a citizen? He has not renounced his citizenship?
Many if not most of the posts about this issue claim that the guy is a citizen, or still is a citizen.

From what I have read, it seems to me that the guy has given up his US citizenship.

Denunciation, plotting against, etc. Do those things add up to giving up citizenship?

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:26 PM
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1. You're the teechur.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:12 PM
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3. So, if he is not a citizen, we should just go ahead and light him up?
Is that your point or am I missing your point?

Full disclosure: I was also against the attempted assassination of our former employee, Saddam Hussein.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:13 PM
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4. I personally don't see the citizen, non-citizen thing as an issue.
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 02:13 PM by Rex
If we are willing to assassinate people then why should nationality get in the way? I'm sure a star chamber doesn't really care what race/religion/nationality you are, just that you die and stay dead. Results.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:32 PM
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6. It's only an issue insofar as it might help American citizens reflect
on what their government is doing under American law. But you're right, under international law, it's not an issue, afaik.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:19 PM
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5. Renouncing citizenship is a formal procedure.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

A person wishing to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship must voluntarily and with intent to relinquish U.S. citizenship:

appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer,
in a foreign country (normally at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate); and
sign an oath of renunciation
Renunciations that do not meet the conditions described above have no legal effect. Because of the provisions of section 349(a)(5), Americans cannot effectively renounce their citizenship by mail, through an agent, or while in the United States. In fact, U.S. courts have held certain attempts to renounce U.S. citizenship to be ineffective on a variety of grounds, as discussed below.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:36 PM
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7. Don't waste your time
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 02:36 PM by MattBaggins
These trolls in these threads are "ends not means" types. They could care less about law. They see a scary "Muslin" and want him dead just because the Media/Administration say so.

You are wasting your time discussing rule of law.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 07:05 PM
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8. +
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