You'll never believe what a wingnut aquaintence of mine just told me...

[KonaKane]

Are you sitting down?

We were talking about the Westboro Baptist bunch picketing the miner funerals. He said "Fred Phelps is a liberal Democrat plant meant to make conservatives and their values look bad."

Blink, blink.

I know how ridiculous this sounds, but what do you want to bet there are already thousands of teabagging idiots and others on that side of the fence, more than ready to believe it and are now using it as a fact?

[Fumesucker]

1. You can't fix stupid... n/t

[Festivito]

25. Yes you can, and should /nt

[Fumesucker]

36. You can fix ignorant, you can't fix stupid..

They are two different things although the one often masquerades as the other.

A goodly number of these people are just bone stupid.

[Festivito]

45. For as much as we might be able to wake them from their stupor, let's give it a try.

I have dealt with this exact situation. Giving people the other side of the issue forces them to rethink their sources.

It leads to a better place, little by little.

[old mark]

30. My shotgun fixes stupid just fine. nt

[cui bono]

32. Don't we have enough "shotgun" talk coming from the TeaBaggers? n/t

[old mark]

37. No, I don't believe we do, thanks. nt

[Snarkoleptic]

46. Know your enemy-

A handy guide to Phelps and WBC.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2001/spring/a-city-held-hostage/fred-phelps-timel

[eShirl]

2. I have a feeling we're going to be hearing that excuse quite a bit over the next few years.

about Palin, Bachmann, Beck...

[Quantess]

3. And how did you reply?

It should be fairly obvious to anyone with average intelligence that NOBODY --of any political leaning-- likes the Westboro Baptist Church.

How much time do you want to waste pointing out what should be obvious?

[KonaKane]

21. After catching my breath from a fit of laughter....

I calmly looked in their eyes and said I find that highly unlikely. Understated? Perhaps.

[Luminous Animal]

31. I'm pretty sure if I ever lost my job I'd waste my time trolling wingnut boards

posting outrageous things in order to make them look bad.

What can I say? Isn't every person's dream to spend their entire life doing things that will disgust most human beings simply to make a political point?

[virgogal]

4. I doubt it. He is despised by both sides of the political aisle. He is pure eveil.

[bluestateguy]

5. He is no liberal, but he has run for office in the past as a Democrat

Mostly just because the Democratic nomination for most offices in Kansas is usually worthless and not very competitive. All the action is in the Republican primaries.

He just runs for office to have a platform for his nonsense.

[KonaKane]

22. Unless he's one of them old time Dixiecrats

I don't much like them.

[chollybocker]

24. Yep, Phelps has always been a registered Democrat.

His estranged son confirmed that in a recent interview with the CBC.


(He's like the exact opposite of the Log Cabin Republicans zing.)

[Sugarcoated]

6. A Republibully said something similar to me several years ago

not the that he's a plant, but that he's a Democrat. I don't know, but if he is, he's gotta be a holdover Dixiecrat type.

[SoxFan]

7. Sarah Palin is a DNC cyborg

[pnorman]

28. I'm saving that image for later use. Thanks!

[malaise]

41. Everytime I read that quote

I laugh and then wonder if I shouldn't be puking. To quote KO, "That woman is an idiot".

[lonestarnot]

8. Well then freddie better put on his flack jacket.

:evilgrin:

[BlueJazz]

9. Quite Possible....and Noam Chomsky is a Republican spy to make us Democrats..

..look Intelligent. :)

[dorkulon]

10. Didn't you hear? EVERYONE who makes Cons look bad is a Dem plant.

It's true! I read it on Free Republic!

[mwb970]

38. So $arah is actually a Dem?

And Bachmann? And Beck? And Steele?

I have to admit, this is (or would be) a brilliant plan! We simply infiltrate the republican leadership and replace all of the thinking people with people pretending to be hate-radio hosts, quitter-buffoons, and la-la-land Christianist wackos. The credibility of the republicans would plummet!

Phelps strikes most people as a one-off nutjob of no significance. But our plants in the republican leadership are working out great. Go $arah!

[Hawkeye-X]

11. Yeah, Fred's a Dem all right.

A LaRouchie.

That's all he is. We don't own him. Fred owns himself.

Hawkeye-X

[unkachuck]

12. don't....

....talk to wingnuts, no good can come of it....they are evil....they must only be punished....

[pepperbear]

13. this is when the record scratches and everyone stops what they're doing and stares! n/t

[LiberalAndProud]

14. Fred Phelps represents no one except himself. He is vile.

Neither party wants to claim him. Having said that, I have read the he is a registered Democrat.

[dalaigh lllama]

15. I would have told him with a straight face

"No,no, no. Phelps isn't our plant. Palin is. We've got her in there to make the dems look good."

[Initech]

16. Just goes to show you nobody wants that piece of shit on their side.

[sfwriter]

17. Hey, he should join that church and set Fred right. :-)

[BrklynLiberal]

18. Did he stop taking his meds recently...? Or perhaps he is overdosing.

[gmoney]

19. Oh sure... and all the spitting, epithet-hurling tea-baggers were Democratic plants, too

That's another meme working its way around...

[tularetom]

20. I dunno. I thought we were doing pretty good with hannity, beck and limbaugh.

WTF do we need phelps for?

[CoffeeCat]

23. I've got my own wingnut aquaintence...

...I hear your Phelps comment and I raise you a bank bailout comment.

Here's what I was told--that the banks are totally innocent and the
problem is that the politicians FORCED the banks to take the bailout
money. Also, it was the politicians who FORCED the banks to make
bad mortgages to everyone. The banks didn't want to loan out money
to everyone who had a pulse...the government FORCED them to make
these bad loans and give out so many loans laced with creative
financing.

Therefore, that is why we MUST have MORE deregulation within the
banks and financial companies. We must get the government totally
out of the banks and corporations and let them do whatever they want--because
this entire financial crisis was CAUSED by the government forcing banks
to make bad loans.

I tried to explain---that the banks paid the politicians (via campaign
contributions) to get federal regulations relaxed. Then, after those
regulations and acts were relaxed--they were then free to loan to
anyone and then bundle these loans and sell them on the secondary market--where
they made billions. So...the banks PAID the politicians to make this happen.

I was told that I had it wrong. After all...Glenn Beck told them what
to think--even though it was totally preposterous, Glenn said it so it
MUST be true.

Yes, it's disgusting and even frightening to hear this nonsense firsthand.

All you can do is save yourself. Anyone who is stupid enough to get their
world view from dry-drunk, lie-mongering fool Glenn Beck--is too far gone
for any normal person to handle.

[Warren DeMontague]

26. Post-modern performance art, maaaaaaan.

[Mopar151]

27. A shining example of inverse logic!

See, what you do is arrive at the desired conclusion before the facts are established. Then the facts are cut into convenient pieces (in woodworking terms, anything from finger-jointed to sawdust) and fitted together selectively, with glue and pressure, to reach back to the belief.

[Luminous Animal]

29. A wingnut acquaintance told me that teabaggers are Democrat [sic] plants.

[Lilyeye]

33. They said the same crap during the Health Care incidents with the spitting and name calling.

Even a fellow DU membe suggested that they were plants. So stupidty is everywhere.

[deutsey]

34. Well, I heard he's really a Republican plant meant to make people think

he might be a Democratic plant who makes people think he's probably a Republican plant trying to make people think he's really a Democratic plant whose mission is to discredit conservatives who want to believe he's actually a Democratic plant so that, so that...um, what was I saying?

[rucky]

35. I've said that before

- as a joke, though.

These people are getting harder and harder to satirize.

[WeDidIt]

39. I'd say this to him

Tighten up your tinfoil hat, the government mind rays are apparently getting through.

[lunatica]

40. You shoulda said "No, but Sarah is"

If they can make it up as they go then why can't we? Just make shit up and really confuse them. When you acquaintance asks where you heard that say, "She's a plant to make the Conservatives look bad, and it's working."

[zbdent]

42. I can believe that your acquaintence said that ...

because that makes it easier for them to accept it, and turn it against the very people that Phelps is against ...

[BR_Parkway]

43. Same way Gawd planted all those dinasoar bones

[amb123]

44. Oh I can believe it alright!

:rofl:

[mrfocus]

47. It's called "avoiding cognitive dissonance at all cost"

Extreme right wingers are mortally afraid of cognitive dissonance and will do everything humanly possible to avoid it.
Check out this study
http://www.awitness.org/journal/political_conservatism_as_motivated_social_cognition_summary.html

[DefenseLawyer]

48. You may not know it, but this man's a spy

He's an undercover agent for the F.B.I., and he's been sent down here to infiltrate the Ku Klux Klan.

I hope you reached out and kicked your wing-nut friend right in the knee.

[Javaman]

49. Meh, it's just them justifying their own stupidity.

it helps them sleep at night.