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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:53 AM
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If Reagan was black would right wingers still idolize him?
Edited on Fri Apr-09-10 12:06 PM by AnArmyVeteran
If Reagan was black would right wingers still idolize him?

Conservative extremists savagely attacks Obama every day over every trivial thing that pops into their heads. They attacked him for shaking hands with Hugo Chevez, saying no American leader would do such a thing with a foreign enemy, but Reagan shook the hands of Mikhail Gorbachev, the leader of the USSR, our biggest enemy and a true threat to the US.

Now, President Obama is trying to reduce the amount of nuclear weapons in the world and the right wing is savagely attacking him as being weak and even a traitor. But Obama's plan to reduce nuclear weapons doesn't even go as far as Reagan's plans to reduce nuclear weapons. The right wingers are 100 percent ignorant of Reagan's speeches where he talked about reducing the number of nuclear weapons and he gave said we need to reduce them by 15%, the IDENTICAL percentage proposed by President Obama.

How can right wing radio hosts and Fox News continually get away with their blatant lies? A person would have to be a complete imbecile to believe any of them, but it's obvious there are a lot of dimwitted morons in this country. Do they read? Do they think? Do they do ANYTHING other than listen to right wing radio and Fox News all day? They sure must have a lot of free time, or they are taking time away from their workday and therefore cheating their employers.

But back to the point. If Reagan was black would right wingers still support and worship him? And do you think that if a white Obama was elected in 1980 and did everything Reagan did do you think talk radio hosts and Fox News would be glorifying Obama as a saint, as they always do with their god-Reagan? And do you think the Heritage Foundation would have their online Reagan orgy, worshipping his every word, if he was black? The thought of it is even hilarious!


RONALD REAGAN AND MIKHAIL GORBACHEV SHAKING HANDS:
(notice how happy Reagan looked to be shaking the hand of our most threatening enemy?)


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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:54 AM
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1. They never would have heard of him
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left coaster Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:21 PM
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8. Yep.. same as if Ronnie Raygun had a vagina..
Never would have made it that far..
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:54 AM
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2. Wah?
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 11:58 AM
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3. hate to say it, but if reagan had been black, he would have been
"porter #2" instead of "the Gipper."
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:00 PM
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4. Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner.
Although, let's give them some credit. I bet if he had asked real nice, they would have let him shine their shoes.

The Tea Klux Klan and their RW cheer-leading squad are a disgrace.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:02 PM
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5. It would have split the GOP into two parties for all time.
Edited on Fri Apr-09-10 12:03 PM by onehandle
The reasonable Republicans would have stuck with Black Reagan.

The other half would have started their own racist right-wing party.

We would have been the big winners.

We could still be.

These days we would call these splitters, 'teabaggers.' Abandon the GOP, teabaggers. They do not represent you. Go third party.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:02 PM
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6. This is not about race. Right Wingers have never trusted arms agreements negotiated by Dems. nt
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 11:33 AM
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17. Even if the arms agreement was stronger than Reagans?
Face it, no matter what foreign policy Obama initiated, right wingers would attack it. If he wanted to expand our military to 50 million, spend our entire gross national product on the military and start bombing every other country on earth, right wingers would STILL say he was weak on foreign policy.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:10 PM
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7. If RR had been black he never would have been elected
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:26 PM
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9. Had Reagan been Black, we would remember him only as a former actor.
Or maybe not at all.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:39 PM
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10. Had Reagan been black, he would never have been promoted by conservatives in the first place
Sure, they may have given him speaking roles at the various conventions and maybe even given him a meaningless leadership title to show how supposedly diverse and inclusive a party they are. But they would never have let him have any real power
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 10:31 AM
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11. I realized that, but you miss the point of my question.
It wouldn't have mattered if Obama did EVERYTHING Reagan did and said EVERYTHING Reagan did and believed in EVERYTHING Reagan did, the right wing would still savagely attack a white Obama posing as Reagan. Right wingers are the world's biggest pessimists and they always look for the worst in everything.

The fact is, it would not matter what Obama does or says it will be attacked. If he turned the country around and we had a 500 quadrillion dollar surplus, all wars would be over, unemployment would be at ZERO, all diseases were wiped out and if he invented magic dust people could use to sprinkle on themselves to feel good any time they wanted, right wingers would STILL ATTACK HIM.

That is the point of my question...
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 10:34 AM
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12. Correction to my previous post of a 'utopian' world under Obama...
In the list of 'good' things I said would make right wingers happy I included the end of wars, but right wingers seem to love war so they would be upset with Obama if he ended the wars or wasn't trying to provoke another war. They all cheered on Bush's War based entirely on lies.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 10:38 AM
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13. You mean Larry Elder black?
He could have said: "Black Republicans pose a special threat because black Republicans disarm the left wing's weapons of racial grievance and the victicrat mentality. Black Republicans are a scary bunch. They don't follow the script by blaming everything on race, as if nothing's changed. Like a gay who supports traditional marriage, a Latino who wants the borders secured first, a woman who is pro-life, or a poor person who doesn't want to soak the rich — we threaten groupthink and identity politics.


Yeah I think that guy would be loved be Republicans.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 11:21 AM
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14. Makes no sense n/t
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 11:27 AM
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15. If we lived on Jupiter, would the sun rise in the east?
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:15 PM
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18. You don't need shoes if you're planning a trip to Jupiter...
If you lived 'on' Jupiter you would probably be floating in a sea of gasses and liquids. Jupiter's 'days' are less than 10 hours long and if you existed in such a hostile environment, the sun would rise in the east. But considering the massive amount of gasses surrounding the planet you would have to be on the outer portions of its atmosphere to see the light. Among the gasses would be a large presence of methane, maybe even as much produced at a typical tea bagging gathering.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 11:27 AM
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16. reagan was a snake
he started as a new dealer and just went where opportunity took him. classic american con man.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:20 PM
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19. At that time he would have been playing pullman conductors on
TV and movies. He might have moved on to better acting parts after the civil rights movements of the sixties, but he never would have gone any further in politics than a congressman. That is the sad truth for any black man or woman of his era.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:20 PM
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20. Alan Keyes is black, and he's more crazy right wing than Reagan ever was
Yet the Repukes actually arrested him when he tried to enter one of their conventions. (either 2000 or 2004)
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