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RonSunn Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:28 PM
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Just keep this word in mind "Unelectable"
Palin or the salamander gingrich running for president, it would be just like Limbaugh or Glen Beck running, all four are so far on the fringe right there is not enough to EVER get them elected.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:31 PM
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1. That's the surest way to make an opponent electable. By thinking of him/her as "unelectable."
Edited on Fri Apr-09-10 01:34 PM by ClassWarrior
No one eligible to run is "unelectable." And it's political suicide to fool oneself into thinking any opponent is.

NGU.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:35 PM
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2. No, Sarah Palin IS unelectable, outside of Obama being caught in a dead girl/live boy scenario.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:36 PM
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3. So was that right-wing whack job actor Ronald Reagan.
How'd that work out for you?

NGU.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:43 PM
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5. Seeing as how I was 3 when he left office, I didn't get much out of the Reagan Presidency.
And this comparison is getting really stale for a few reasons:

1) Reagan was capable of stringing words together to make sentences and was enormously popular outside of just the conservative base.

2) Reagan ran for President in an era before the 24-hour news cycle.

3) There was no YouTube or Twitter or instant recall when Ronald Reagan ran for President.

4) Sarah Palin has a Gollum-like relationship with the media, whereas Reagan loved the cameras and was actually capable of building consensus (see: his friendship with Tip O'Neill).

Sarah Palin has rendered herself unelectable. Not that it matters, since I don't think she's ever going to run for President.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 04:06 PM
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19. Seeing as you were 3 when he left office, you didn't know a time when he was considered...
...a right-wing whack job actor. Yes, there was a time when he was NOT enormously popular outside of the conservative base. And was considered a TOTAL lightweight because he was the "Bedtime for Bonzo" star.

NGU.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:44 PM
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7. I was gonna say, Reagan was unelectable too
I fear Palin and her team of Gilead Theocrats
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 02:05 PM
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12. Yes, Reagan and W.
I remember laughing so hard when pundits said that Governor Reagan would be President someday. Yes, he would win that one for the Gipper. And W? That buffoon?

Never underestimate the stupidity...


When I type that, Reagan and W., it makes me think of King Lear's daughters, Regan and Goneril. I don't know why. They did wreak quite a bit of havoc, though.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 06:43 PM
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22. That's my favorite Shakespeare play.
Regan was also the name of the girl in The Exorcist.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 06:40 PM
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21. Reagan was a successful two-term governor of the most populous state.
Sarah Palin didn't even last two years in one of the least populous states.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 07:56 PM
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23. And he was considered an ultra-RW lightweight by a large portion of the country. Probably....
....by a lot of Californians, too.

NGU.

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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:39 PM
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4. It is possible that someday Palin may run as a third party. Looks
like that is the direction she and her sidekick, Bachmann may be going. If so, it could wind up like other third party candidates, always on the outside looking in. Traditionaly third parties never come very close to winning. Of course there is a first time for everything.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:43 PM
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6. Be careful - W was unelectable too
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:46 PM
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8. That was going to be my remark also - although Bushco was installed (PNAC)
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DarthCheney Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:46 PM
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9. agree with what you say, however,
the press, and other forces, seem bent on making her electable.

Why would groups such as the wine and spirits association (or whatever it was) pay her to speak, and big bucks at that, unless there was some sort of "electability" or the desire to increase her electability in there?
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:48 PM
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10. Never underestimate the power of electronic voting systems!!
Just ask gwb, the only two-time unelected pResident in US history.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:50 PM
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11. BINGO...never say never in this parallel dimension-country
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 02:06 PM
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13. Please look up the "conventional wisdom" on Raygun's Presidential aspirations
in the 70's.

"There are only two infinite things, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - A. Einstein


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RonSunn Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 02:30 PM
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14. Thats funny considering the avatar
:P
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 03:46 PM
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18. Yeah, but he plays for the wrong team, ours. n/t
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 02:23 AM
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24. I'm trying to find an on-line clip from Laugh-In "News from the Future"
skit with Raygun as President. It was a very funny joke then.


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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 03:05 PM
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15. Back in 2003, even in 2005
the same would have been said about Barack Obama in 2008. Fortunes and expectations change rapidly in politics.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 03:09 PM
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16. Oops. Dupe. (n/t)
Edited on Fri Apr-09-10 03:10 PM by Pab Sungenis
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 03:19 PM
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17. sh-h-h-h-h-h-h!
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 06:34 PM
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20. She would have to run with a third party, and I think all she'll ever be capable of
is splitting the vote so someone else wins.

And even if she were to God forbid somehow win, it wouldn't last long. After six months, she'd quit.
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Oldenuff Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 02:51 AM
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25. Who knows what she is really thinking..

Maybe she figures that if all else fails,she can turn her "fame" into a cabinet position.(?)
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