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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:45 PM
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Off the Radar: Private Planes Hidden From Public View
Televangelist Kenneth Copeland faced a congressional inquiry after flying his ministry’s tax-exempt jet to Maui and the Fiji Islands.

South Dakota Gov. Mike Rounds has been questioned about his use of state planes for political and personal trips.

And after getting a $180 billion federal bailout, the insurance giant AIG caught flak for its fleet of corporate jets.

To prevent the public from seeing where they fly, all have over the years turned to a little-known program that lets private plane owners block their flights from view in the government’s system for tracking air traffic.

The owners don’t have to meet any test to keep their flights secret. They merely submit a request to the National Business Aviation Association <1>, a trade group that lobbied to set up the program on the grounds that secrecy is justified to protect business deals and the security of executives.

http://www.propublica.org/feature/off-the-radar-private-planes-hidden-from-public-view-040810
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:48 PM
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1. Yeah, the TSA BS is just for us peons
the real players fly at their leisure, and don't have to suffer the TSA in the process.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:52 PM
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2. They HAVE to be tracked by the ATC system. Otherwise there
would be many mid air collisions. If you mean that they don't have to file a flight plan, that MAY be true,but they absolutely tracked.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:55 PM
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3. ATC controllers can see them on their radar...but


...you the Joe q Public cannot see them on online flight tracking services like Flightaware.com
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 04:31 PM
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4. It depends
If they can make the entire trip under Visual Flight Rules, then there's no requirement for a flight plan.

-Hoot
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:06 AM
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5. Where does privacy kick in on this issue?
Note that ANY general aviation plane can request that service, including (in theory) a Piper Cub.
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 11:45 AM
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6. What is it that we're supposed to do with this information?
I don't see the problem with keeping this information private. As long as the air traffic controllers can track these planes, who cares?
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