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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:57 PM Original message |
Family sends 7 year old adopted boy back to Russia on one-way flight - alone. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Horrid. Not only is this irresponsible, but it screws up the chances |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. Although this was wrong - there are issues on both sides of these adoptions |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
96. most of these kids were kept in cribs without people touching them |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. So sad, all the way around. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. Wow. I'll chip in for a one way ticket for the family. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. While I agree with the fact to send this kid back alone is unacceptable |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Sadly, not just Russians, but Koreans, Chinese, and all the other hip and trendy adoption countries. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I think that is the real problem in this country, our adaption process is absolutely insane |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
59. Adoption. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. It is not as easy to adopt a healthy baby or toddler here as you think, |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. That IS what I said - you must not have read my the whole post. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. I read your whole post twice but I still don't see where you addressed this issue. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. I apologize - I figured "fucked up" was quicker and more emphatic than a dissertation |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. This wasn't a baby or a toddler. the kid was 7. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. I was responding to the earlier comment that suggested that parents |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Oops..my apologies.. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
61. Orphanages in India are scamming church members here in Houston. |
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flpab (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
71. adoption in the USA |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
118. Some of us don't qulify for infants in the USA. Age, perhaps, like being 40, make it impossible |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Oh. I'm sure there's a lot of truth in that. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Rather than blame all Americans who adopt, Russia might blame the vetting of the adoptive mother. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
65. Or perhaps vetting the adoptive mother of the medical history of the child |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Got a link for that assertion? n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Here is one outlining some of the problems I just mentioned, |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I also know about it personally, so if you don't want to believe me, |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. What, are you from Russia? n/t |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Nope...n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. Here's a link with many more details. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. Nope. A friend adopted a Russian boy a few years back...the process |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Believe what you want to, |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. No, you're making excuses...and quite frankly, you seem very eager to |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. I guess you missed the parts where I said |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Having worked at an organization that helped facilitate adoptions from Russia, |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Yeah, that was the little bit tacked on the end after blaming the Russians... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:34 AM Response to Reply #39 |
128. No, he doesn't. But you seem very eager to condemn her. Must be nice to |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #128 |
142. Most people do have an issue with people who abandon children like that woman did... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 11:36 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. I agree that she handled the return poorly. But I'm wondering why there isn't |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #147 |
149. Probably because everyone is focused on her appalling actions. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #142 |
161. This woman could have worked with her agency to have the adoption disrupted |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
67. Two problems, theres and ours |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #67 |
91. kickysnana |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. I adopted a child.. not from Russia but I have an adopted son |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. well, russians are the right - |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. How have people gotten burned by this? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
58. Yup. I was going to say the same |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
88. I assume you have some strong evidence for everything you say??? |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. I said last night the parents are rigthwing "Christians" or Orange County "accessory-wanters". |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
70. That could account for the kid's psychological problems. |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
173. ++++ you said exactly what I was thinking. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. Poor little boy. It may well be true that he suffers from psych issues from |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
7. Didn't they get to take the kid for a test-drive before they brought him home? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. It might be hard to tell with a child who doesn't speak English, |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. A friend adopted a Russina boy...twice she had to fly over there and |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 04:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
122. Yep. I know four couples who adopted from China. |
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theoldman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. Russia will put up for adoption the children it wants the least. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I don't think that person was a mother. n/t |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
64. I've read alot about this (I'm an aunt to 2 Russian adopted children) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #64 |
76. No doubt a person should be prepared for that kind of commitment |
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rebecca_herman (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
84. exactly |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
69. Yes, it sounds like both sides are very wrong... |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. I didn't read the details about the child's psychopathic issues, |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Whatever the kid's characteristics, they don't justify what was done to him. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Maybe not...we're taking the word of a woman who lied to a 7-year-old and |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. holy shit... |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
75. She's a nurse |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
169. Those services would have required her to be financially responsible for the child |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
15. Russian Orphanage workers and the director may have been lied to and misled ... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. She or they should be charged with child endangerment. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. They apparently thought Russia was fucking Wal-Mart |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. It's legal to put a 7 year old on a plane, as long as there is someone to pick |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. No, the big problem is they lied to the kid...told him he was going |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Where does it say that? n/t |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
68. Try reading the article to get a sense that she's worthless garbage... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. I don't know enough to defend her or attack her. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. There's enough in the article to show she's a disgusting individual... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Since I don't watch or read FOX, I missed that quote. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. I don't watch or read it either, but I do read posts in this thread which is where it was... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:40 AM Response to Reply #94 |
129. Wrong. I don't accept what she's saying NOR do I disbelieve her. Unlike you, |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #129 |
134. It is not a matter of believing or not |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #134 |
135. Neither the US nor Russia is a party to the international treaty that would have |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. wow so anyone can simply dump a trouble some child? n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. No. Only someone who's adopted a child from a foreign country, since |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #139 |
162. That is not true |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. There is nothing in that paperwork that prevents a person from revoking |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. The paperwork MUST be filed BEFORE the child is brought into the United States |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #166 |
171. I just read that the boy only came here last September and the adoption |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. This child would have entered the US with an IR-3 Visa |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. OH please spew venom at a women no matter what age |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. No, an adopted child is not automatically a US citizen. The parents have to do the paperwork for it. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. The law changed in 2001 - he is a US Citizen |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 05:43 AM Response to Reply #144 |
159. He was adopted back in the 90s, so clearly didn't fit under the new laws. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #138 |
145. One of my siblings has adopted 2 children from other countries |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #129 |
141. Yet, you did accept what she said in another part of this thread... |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 05:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
124. It doesn't matter what arrangements they made, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
79. Actually, on the advice of their attorney, the child was picked up on the other |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
95. Why are you defending such disgusting actions? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
24. More details here: |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
30. Conflicting infor on the adoptive mother. She is either a 26 or 34 yr old nurse, single mother |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
37. That poor kid! |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. "...I no longer wish to parent this child." (HINT: Parents don't say that, posers do) |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
46. Assholes I know who live in NorCal adopted a Russian orphan and I swear... |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
48. How awful. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
51. even if everything the mother and grandmother alleges is true, they fuct up. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
80. It was pretty heartless, but where was the child endangerment? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. The Russian ministry wasn't notified to accept the child before hand. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. A lawyer was involved. It is possible that they knew that the Ministry |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Ok, its true that I know very little, but if the adoptive parents sent the child back without having |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #89 |
99. That'd be the same lawyer who suggested abandoning the child? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. I'm not putting a positive spin on it or trying to make it acceptable. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. But all you've done throughout this thread is put up speculation to try to justify her doing it... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #103 |
106. I'm not "putting up speculation." I don't know the truth -- just that there are two sides |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:21 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Of course you've been speculating away in this thread. Here's some examples... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. You've spotted me, have you? Oh dear. n/t |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:29 AM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Huh? Now yr not making any sense... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:28 AM Response to Reply #115 |
127. I'm quoting you; maybe you should read your own post. But people who feel shaky on logic |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #127 |
140. You weren't quoting me as I never said that, nor did I personally attack you... |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 12:55 AM Response to Reply #80 |
150. 7 yr old children are not put on long flights like that all alone every day- are you crazy? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:08 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. I can't even imagine what that would be like. |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:14 AM Response to Reply #152 |
153. especially if he is disturbed as claimed |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
53. I don't understand how this could even happen after going through the ordeal of sending my kids |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
55. the parents should be criminally charged |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
57. This "mother" is the one with severe psychopatic issues! |
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Michigan-Arizona (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
60. They could have sent him to my daughter in Michigan! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
62. Cry for the child. Similar to some foreign exchange students. Our family has encountered, and in one |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
66. Did she at least give him a pack of smokes for the flight? /nt |
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cutlassmama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
72. She was a "nurse"???!!! I'd hate to have to rely on her for care. What a monster!!! |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
77. I wonder if he has an attachment disorder. |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
81. In Minnesota an adopted Russian child recently took a gun to school |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 03:43 AM Response to Reply #81 |
120. That's a horrific story |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
82. I've actually worked and been in a Russian orphanage. |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
85. This rejection is not likely to help the poor kid's emotional development either! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Compassion is wonderful, but not everyone can deal with a severely disturbed |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. I'm going to judge the fact that this 7 yr. old was put on a plane like |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. Couldn't have put it better myself... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. What would support the child endangerment charges? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Are you a lawyer? |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 05:37 AM Response to Reply #101 |
123. This child is a US CITIZEN |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #123 |
132. Thank you no one here seemed to recognize that fact |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #132 |
151. On edit, it's not clear if the adoption was final. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 03:21 AM Response to Reply #151 |
156. The adoption was finalized in Russia |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #156 |
167. I'm going by what's in the article, and the authorities investigating say they don't know. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #167 |
170. We are talking about Russia |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Why are you taking what the woman who dumped that child said as being factual? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. How do you know there is no evidence? The woman says that she hadn't been |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:44 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Because there's none in the OP or any other article posted, that's why... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:09 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. The lack of evidence in the media now doesn't constitute proof of anything. n/t |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:11 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. You don't seem to be understanding that the woman making a claim doesn't make it a fact... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:09 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Of course I do. That's why I say we don't know the truth. n/t |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:27 AM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Then you should stick to facts and not make unsubstantiated accusations about the child n/t |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #97 |
133. there is something that only one poster has pointed out |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #133 |
154. I keep wondering how the child went through customes |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 02:15 AM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Most likely, he still had a Russian passport |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 03:29 AM Response to Reply #133 |
157. he is still a Russian citizen |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:00 AM Response to Reply #90 |
125. So, you just put the kid on a plane by himself and ship him back? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 12:04 AM Response to Reply #90 |
148. This woman is a criminal. She found a stranger on the internet to meet him there, for goodness sake |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
86. Contrary1 |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #86 |
146. Excellent insights |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #86 |
163. I agree so much with you and thank you for writing |
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WilmywoodNCparalegal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
87. To those against international adoptions |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:13 AM Response to Reply #87 |
109. I'm not certain she could have placed the boy in a facility here. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:33 AM Response to Reply #109 |
117. Even if she tried and couldn't, that doesn't justify what she did to him n/t |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
113. Wow! Like the kid was a small electronic device from Radio Shack... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
116. The child is for sure mentally unstable NOW. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
119. poor child |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 04:10 AM Response to Original message |
121. the lack of compassion by some people can be absolutely astounding . . . |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #121 |
131. Actually - that IS exactly the case! I went to adoption/foster classes |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
126. I find it odd that the airline would have been okay with this "plan". |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
130. It's horrible on both sides - for the family and the child. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
143. I don't care what was "wrong" with this child. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #143 |
175. news said 3 families have volunteered to adopt him. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
158. Mike Huckabee should personally tell her that children aren't puppies |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
160. Notice where the failed adoptions are located: Tennessee, Virginia, Utah |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #160 |
168. And note that this adoption was a single parent adoption |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
165. Meh. The kid was an asshole |
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bernynhel (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
174. ban-schman |
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