The Iraqi vacation - "outrage of outrages" may prompt a troop exit quicker then any DEM plan!

[RiverStone]

CNN
5/3/07

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Lawmakers divided over whether to keep U.S. troops in Iraq are finding common ground on at least one topic: They are furious that Iraqi politicians are considering a lengthy break this summer.

"If they go off on vacation for two months while our troops fight -- that would be the outrage of outrages," said Rep. Chris Shays, R-Connecticut.

The Iraq parliament's recess, starting this July, would likely come without Baghdad politicians reaching agreements considered key to easing sectarian tensions. Examples include regulating distribution of the country's oil wealth and reversing measures that have excluded many Sunnis from jobs and government positions because of Baath party membership.

more:

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/05/03/congress.iraq.ap/

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All these months/years the rethugs have been flying in the face of logic and reason - marching in lock step to Shrub's insanity in Iraq - oblivious or ignoring public opinion. Yet this story, IMHO, will have more legs with the American people then any of the countless lies and miscalculations in Iraq.

Imagine the Iraqi Parliament saying in essence - why rush and get our shit together? In fact, we are going on a 2 month break. By the way America, please keep feeding billions of dollars into our country and risk your life and limb while we vacation.

Even rethug war mongering idiots will have a really difficult time swallowing that pill. As this story hits the streets, the public outrage will force a NEW view on our commitment. I suggest the DEMS hold off any compromise with Shrub. This proposed "vacation" may do more to ensure a VETO PROOF Congress then any argument we have offered in the past. This may finally be the beginning of our troops ticket home!

[AndyA]

1. Tin Foil Hat Time: Is this outrage on the part of Republicans feigned?

After everything else that they've tolerated and supported in Iraq, they're now getting upset weeks after this fact was first made known?

A two month vacation is going to possibly motivate the Republicans to pull the troops?

Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I'm wondering if the GOP is desperately looking for ANY REASON to pull the troops themselves, without making it look like they're giving in to the Democrats.

Think about it. They could save face, and would be heroes with their base.

:tinfoilhat:

[Ino]

You may well be right!

Didn't Petraeus meet with the Repugs and implore them "don't do anything until August" -- namely, give the surge a nice long chance before you desert Bush? I think they're grumbling en masse to themselves, and this would be a perfect excuse to pull the plug earlier.

[Matariki]

2. Speaking of outrage: the "Iraqi accountability" meme

I find it very arrogant and stupid when politicians here accuse Iraqis of slacking or 'not taking responsibility' on 'not getting their shit together' or what ever.

As if we didn't create a COMPLETE mess of their country. We fucking OWE them billions of dollars.

[RiverStone]

7. What we don't owe them is more American lives!

Yep - we fucked things up big time in Iraq. We could provide jobs training, bridge building, power plant construction --- whatever.

But we DO NOT owe them more soldiers to fight in a lost civil war! Too may countless lives destroyed - both American and Iraqi - what ever brings our military involvement to an end there...needs to happen ASAP.

[Matariki]

13. I agree with you.. We never 'owed' them American lives in the first place.

I just keep hearing talk from Republicans and Democrats alike that Iraq needs to 'step up to the plate', blah, blah, blah. It is unbelievable to me that the same people responsible for smashing up Iraq with their despicable and unjustified invasion are now saying the Iraqis are somehow irresponsible for not taking care of the mess. Bullshit. It's like a bully destroying everything in someone's home then angrily crying 'look what you made me do, now who's going to clean up this mess'.

They don't need 'job training', they're not welfare recipients. They were doing fine until we came in and broke everything. They had a decent standard of living, and educated population and a strong middle class. We have a very serious responsibility to pay for and/or rebuild their infrastructure we destroyed.

[panader0]

3. I suggest they all spend their vacation in Crawford, clearing brush.

[bullimiami]

8. so republican outrage doesnt extend to bush taking month long vacations in the middle

of the same war? the one he started?

[RiverStone]

14. Or better yet, Shrub spend his vacation in Iraq...

Cleaning up the HUGE mess he made!

[bdamomma]

15. yea, * needs work detail, to get him ready for real work detail.

[CabalPowered]

4. The thugs are angry that they won't get their hydrocarbon law

soon enough. :nopity:

[Old and In the Way]

5. I'm betting that's why they decided to take a nice long vacation.

They are not going to get themselves railroaded into signing this anti-Iraqi POS legislation. It's legalized plunder for the American corporations. I'm betting Cheney wjipped this up in his secret energy meetings.

This may be the only thing that all Iraqi's can agree on. They know their Vichy government is a joke and real governance will only start when the occupying troops leave the country.

[Duer 157099]

6. A chink in the armour? Let's exploit it and call the Pubs in Congress!

Express outrage and tell them we need to get the hell out of there NOW and let them take responsibility for their own country! The "party of RESPONSIBILITY" right??

toll-free numbers here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=812154&mesg_id=812154

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. Kettle meet pot.

[scarface2004]

10. school's out for the summer!!!!

yee haw!!

[cooolandrew]

11. That most likely does hold water, we'll see Repubs are very stubborn but they are waking up a little

[zbdent]

12. Who do these Iraqi politicians think they are?

Republicans???

[Monk06]

16. Iraq is holding new elections in March 2008 six months ahead of US

Presidential elections.

The Iraq government asked for the US
to improve security. They didn't ask
for a SURGE.

Presidential elections.

The Iraq government asked for the US
to improve security. They didn't ask
for a SURGE.

Note the difference

Improved security involves planning and
implementation over the long term with
proper funding and manpower resources.
It is an ongoing enterprise with degrees
of progress over time.

A SURGE is a counterinSURGEncy. It is a
military campaign. By definition it has
a beginning and an end which will succeed
or fail. No other options no middle ground.

The Iraqi govt has effectively said the SURGE
was your idea, don't ask us to put lipstick
on this pig come September when it fails.
Which in all likelihood it will.

By going on Vacation they have washed their
hands concerning the occupation. Now the US
is solely responsible for the intensified
Infantada that will follow.

The Iraqis are not stupid nor are they powerless
This is a war of attrition and time is on their
side.