Note to Newt: Women really, really don't like Palin

[babylonsister]

Count me in! :D

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201004110006


Note to Newt: Women really, really don't like Palin

April 11, 2010 11:43 am ET by Eric Boehlert

Noted women's rights thinker Newt Gingrich appeared on CNN recently to announce that Sarah Palin is something of a feminist icon. Explaining her appeal, Gingrich seemed to suggest that women --aside from San Francisco liberals-- adore Palin and are drawn to her unique, can-do qualities.

Except that, of course, they don't.

According to the latest CBS News poll, Palin is weighed down by an astonishingly low favorable rating among women; just 21 percent. In fact, women give Palin the lowest marks of virtually any demographic group polled by CBS.

But other than that, Gingrich appears to be dead on in his "feminist" analysis.

[Blue_In_AK]

1. Ditto.

I can't stand that woman. She gives women everywhere a bad name.

[HipChick]

7. +100..

some said it best here at DU..can't find the post now...but for working women,she reminds us of someone we know, that female that has winked,flirted their way to the top,that got by on looks...she mediocre, not smart,proud of being ignorant and negatively orientated..she disgusts me

[calimary]

42. +1000. Her looks never swayed me.

What she said and did and how she'd lived and how she's "managed" her family and the job she quit for no really legitimate or logical reason (except she was hungry to make more money than she could in the public sector and/or she'd gotten word she'd be facing legal trouble as governor for some of her actions on the job). Some loud, snarky, mean-spirited, fact-challenged holier-than-thou with an unmarried, pregnant, at the time not-even-outta-high-school daughter, a husband with a traceable, suspicious, radical secessionist background, a seven-year-old parading around with a Louis Vuitton purse, and a baby with very obvious special needs who's passed around like a football in public and shoved in our faces at every campaign photo-op with the family - when that baby should be home, safe, and being well-cared-for appropriate to his special needs - CANNOT pass herself off as some role model for ME!!! No matter HOW cutesy or folksy or winky she is or how much "fancy pageant walkin'" she can do onstage! palin may be pretty on the outside, but she's horrifyingly ugly and repulsive on the inside.

[LiberalFighter]

99. Anyone that doesn't look within her are not capable of making good decisions.

When one doesn't recognize the problems with the woman it is not their intellect involved. Those men and women finding her favorable will do so either with their emotions as is want within their gender or for less than honorable characteristics.

[FlufferFreeZone]

189. That says it all

LOVE your post, Calimary. "Fancy pageant walkin'" -- hiliarous!! I'm gonna save your post for future reference. About the only thing you left out is that Palin makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

[Plucketeer]

176. LOL! You're being too kind.

She was brought into the limelight out of desperation, and has grabbed on to that windfall to dupe the dopes and wring out every penny she can. BTW, she makes me sick.

[Mojeoux]

47. The depth of my loathing for SP would skew the numbers if they asked me.

x( :puke: :puke: :puke: :argh: :nuke: :nuke: :kick: :hurts:

[Bitwit1234]

69. That's for damn sure she is smirkier than bush, more evil than cheney

and more underhanded than fat butt rove. So there.

[livetohike]

2. What is it Palin "can do" again?

Her can do qualities? NO SHE CAN'T :-) raise a family, handle the position of Governor, convince anyone that she is intelligent, act as a role model in any capacity to anyone male or female, etc., etc.,etc.

That's the best the GOP can do? Newt and Palin? Sounds like a comedy team.

[Myrina]

25. she's good at quitting.

oh, and at blaming everyone else for her fubar's.

[MarshalltheIrish]

95. Not to mention

Giving her book the most hilariously unfitting title of any political memoir ever.

[wickerwoman]

100. Welcome to DU!

And an excellent point sir!

:toast:

[MarshalltheIrish]

112. Thanks!

I look forward to posting here!

[Jackpine Radical]

164. "Going Rouge?" Right on the money if ya ask me.

Rogue? Oh. Nevermind.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

106. Shoot wolves from airplanes and preside over the rape/meth capital of the U.S. (n/t)

[Warpy]

3. Working women especially despise her

because most working women have had the distinct misfortune into running into that type at work at least once.

She's the bird who networks and schmoozes her way into a management gig only to be completely incompetent at it, shoves her work off on the women she stepped on to get there, and blames them for being able to do it when she can't, attempting to sabotage them every step of the way.

She's pure poison and working women can spot it a mile away.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

8. +1

I work with several just like her. gawd give me strength to persevere.

[lolly]

21. We've all known the type

Even before the working world.

I heard her described somewhere as "The b***h in 10th grade who stole your boyfriend just to show she could."

[tigereye]

35. nicely said, Warpy. That's exactly it.

[tammywammy]

44. Exactly!!!! n/t

[prolesunited]

45. Definitely have that pegged.

She is *not* the equivalent of Hillary.

[blondeatlast]

50. Exactly. nt

[northernlights]

62. +1000

I've been plagued by female, Palinesque managers throughout my sorry career. Also a Palinesque aunt. Cannot stand any of them.

[DawgHouse]

66. Wow, that's short, sweet and to the point!

+1

[OhioBlue]

77. exactly! n/t

[Tumbulu]

98. Perfectly worded, Warpy!

I have nothing more to add.

[Mopar151]

102. You mean like this?

"Often the narcissist will fraudulently claim to have qualifications or experience or affiliations or associations which they don't have or aren't entitled to. Belief in superiority, inflating their self-esteem to match that of senior or important people with whom they associate or identify, insisting on having the "top" professionals or being affiliated with the "best" institutions, but criticising the same people who disappoint them are also common features of narcissistic personality disorder.

Narcissists react angrily to criticism and when rejected, the narcissist will often denounce the profession which has rejected them (usually for lack of competence or misdeed) but simultaneously and paradoxically represent themselves as belonging to the profession they are vilifying.

Fragile self-esteem, a need for constant attention and admiration, fishing for compliments (often with great charm), an expectation of superior entitlement, expecting others to defer to them, and a lack of sensitivity especially when others do not react in the expected manner, are also hallmarks of the disorder. Greed, expecting to receive before and above the needs of others, overworking those around them, and forming romantic (sic) or sexual relationships for the purpose of advancing their purpose or career, abusing special privileges and squandering extra resources also feature."

from http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/npd.htm

Reminds me way too much of an HR manager I used to have... I'm going thru this again, because my old job has opened up, and I have had to apply to this person, or her minions. Part (but only a part) of why Caribou Barbie gives me the willies.

[Blue Gardener]

118. You nailed it

They not only schmooze their way, they flirt their way. Women understand her methods and despise her for it.

[SmileyRose]

120. That needs it's own thread so we can recommend it.

[connecticut yankee]

135. Not only in the office, but

I've known several women elected to office, who are just like that.

And, sad to say, some are Democrats.

[Arkansas Granny]

138. Exactly right. We've all known women like that and it's easy to recognize.

[momster]

147. Easy for us to recognize but men never seem to until it is too late.

I don't know why...and I don't mean to man-bash...but it takes them longer to recognize the kind of game-playing women like this live by. Maybe the lower brain rules the upper when they get winked at? Whatever it is, I know a lot of men who would have been wiser to listen to their sisters, mothers, daughters or wives (!) when such a woman crossed his path.

[seabeyond]

151. there are always the women that listen to the men that are the worst for them too.....

both genders, you have the stupid and the not

[Arkana]

173. We do recognize it, we just don't understand why YOU do it.

:P

[seabeyond]

174. um... because sometimes they get to run for pres when they well dont deserve it,

just by throwing sexuality out there. because sometimes they make lots of money off it. because there are rewards in behaving like that, even though they are selling self out.

[JerseygirlCT]

154. +1,000,000,000 and so on nt

[boycottfaux]

159. Hockey Mom - HAHAHA

This woman spends how much time with her underage kids again??

I still say she can't run two sentences together with any
intellect.  We all know it . .

[YOY]

166. And men with a brain can see them for what they are too.

n.t.

[seabeyond]

168. yes. nt

[YOY]

170. Raising those boys well SB!

n/t

[Warpy]

185. Yeah, after they promote them

and realize they're embarrassments at executive meetings.

[YOY]

188. No Warpy. Those men they step on along with the women on the way up. We were never fooled.

Not the stupid-as-fuck overpaid executives who misuse polysyllabic words to look intelligent and shirk their duties.

I've always imagined myself as no frills and nothing pretty...but I get the job done. When you're seldom the target of influence to the point that when you are it's obnoxiously obvious that they want somethings and to be friends/friendly is not one. I've actually said something along the lines of "So sorry, Fluffy. It's your job and not mine." Fake flirt all you want...I've got better at home.

[Arkana]

172. I disagree.

She's the broad who the CEO is currently cheating on his wife with and to shut her up he gives her a management gig, which she proves to be completely incompetent at, while shunting her work off on much-more qualified subordinates and subsequently taking credit for their success while badmouthing them behind their backs.

[Warpy]

184. Sometimes

but more often, she just makes him think he could cheat on his wife with her and that's enough to get her promoted close enough to give his ego a boost every time he sees her.

[calimary]

177. I've worked with women like that.

Women who used their looks as a weapon. I remember the brash, arrogant young upstart who knew just how to cross her legs to beguile the (male - and probably horny) program director sitting across the desk from her. When the general manager hauled me in for questioning after I'd written a memo documenting multiple cases of her flagrant insubordination (I had the miserable misfortune of having this ambitious, ruthless young cutie-pie inserted into my department), he hissed into my face: "DON'T you think this young woman has ...(pause)... TALENT?", what occurred to me was - "would that be sitting or reclining?" My only regret was that I did not say that, out loud, in response. Hell, by then I'd known for some time that I was dead meat and they were looking to move her up - into my job. I'd already been working on lining up something else and I needed just one more week before I could hand in my resignation letter. Which I got. Funny enough, she didn't last that long in my job, and they never found it in their hearts to give her the satisfaction of the actual department-head title. She was referred to as "Acting News Director" for the remainder of her stay.

[Warpy]

186. She usually uses the job as a stepping stone

as she applies for the same level or slightly above the same level as soon as she dimly senses her sex appeal and networking ability won't compensate for her sheer incompetence much longer, no matter how many people she has forced to cover for her.

[calimary]

190. Yeah, and you know what those "stepping stones" really are, don't you?

They're other people's backs. And faces sometimes, too. Which of course means they look straight into those faces and bat their eyelashes (or wink, in sarah's case) in all "innocence" and flat-out deny what they've just done.

[NewJeffCT]

180. According to the Freepers, you librul women

are jealous of Palin's fertility.

[seabeyond]

181. we just know when to say enough already. doesnt mean we cant keep going. who

is raising her little ones???? not her

[NewJeffCT]

182. a woman saying "no"

doesn't really enter into a Freeper's thoughts. Remember, according to the Mike Huckabee signed letter to the Southern Baptist Convention, a woman should "graciously submit" to her husband's leadership.

[seabeyond]

183. then there is that, lol. nt

[saltpoint]

4. The polling is obviously wrong. Virtually all women deeply admire

Palin's knack for field-dressing large wilderness animals.

They likely admire all her other attributes and talents as well, but ah, to be a first-rate moose-gutter...

[Mojorabbit]

94. I can field dress game myself

and I cannot abide that woman.

[saltpoint]

128. - - -

:thumbsup:

[Enthusiast]

129. Me too.

I can gut a deer in minutes but I can't stand that screechy idiot.

[brewens]

152. I bet she won't even put a worm on a hook if she goes fishing!

I'd be willing to put a chunk of money on that having been Tard Palins moose she posed with.

[Swede]

5. Crowley on CNN just showed a graph of Palin's favorables and unfavorables.

Her favoribles are at their lowest since she was introduced to the big stage,and her unfavorables are at their highest. Makes you wonder why she is everywhere all of a sudden.

[karynnj]

18. I hope the cause and affect is that the more she is seen, the less she is liked

Her speech at this convention was over the top appalling. I never thought she could get screechier, but she did.

[mwb970]

122. The sound of $arah's voice is the worst thing I've ever heard.

Especially when she shouts into the microphone in that screechy, nasal whine, with that backwoods hick accent. And of course, what she is yelling is entirely pap and total BS. And her adoring worshippers (the 24%ers) cheer every idiotic word as if she was Jesus herself.

:puke:

[karynnj]

136. best description ever of her voice!

I honestly do not see how it can't grate on the ears of even her supporters!

[AlbertCat]

160. Her speech at this convention was over the top appalling.

You mean " was over the top appalling... again!"

It's the SAME SPEECH over and over. Same talking points, same lies, same accusations... Even the same jokes.

Sarah is the idol of idiots. She's "proof" even an idiot can get somewhere if they "work the room". She's great for those types who always want to hear the same music over and over again.... or see the same movie or TV show over and over. No surprises.... no forward motion....just nice familiar, safe, same-ol' same ol'.

A complete bore.


Then there's Newty! Yikes.... what a has been! His book from the '90s "To Renew America" should be a big red flag to anyone sane.

[BR_Parkway]

48. Raking in the cash while she can, once those numbers drop enough

she'll be forced to do B rated celebrity gigs and "Where are they now?"

[The Wizard]

140. Maybe she'll

end up on Showtime in the early morning hours doing soft core porn.

[Enthusiast]

131. I have an answer.

Because those in control of the media are promoting her just as they are the false Tea Party movement.

[glitch]

161. She's the twirling object while the stealth candidates position themselves. nt

[malaise]

6. Palin is something of a feminist icon???

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaah hhahahahahahahahahahahaha
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[kestrel91316]

9. Personally, I hate her enough for 100 women.

[niyad]

32. and I for a thousand. it makes me ill that this "person" is the same gender--she is everything we

worked so hard to overcome.

[tigereye]

37. exactly - I can still see her winking- WINKING!

during the VP debate. Winking!


Setting back women's rights 50 years! :grr: :wtf:

[blondeatlast]

51. Lord, I'd almost forgotten that. That millisecond set competent women

back 10 years.

[tigereye]

63. that's how it seemed to me at the time

:hi:

[patrice]

75. Nailed. it.

[StClone]

10. Bachmann and Palin are Eye Candy

Well at least for old white guys but where that gets from here is not known. They are so a means of stirring up the populace, like Beck, and as a distraction while the true operations take place in the deep dark.

[seabeyond]

15. more than eye candy, also stupid confirming these males sense of superiority. nt

[teknomanzer]

103. Insecure males love stupid women...

Any sign of intellegence is a threat.

[RainDog]

16. Fossiled Dick Candy n/t

[PSzymeczek]

71. I simply do not understand

why people/men say that Palin or Bachmann are attractive. When you look in their eyes, they look insane. And that automatically disqualifies them from being attractive. Plus Palin looks hard.

[Whisp]

80. I don't understand either - the part where people keep calling her attractive.

:shrug:

people who are mean and stupid liars never look good to me.

[StClone]

86. Right but

If you were some one never to have seen or heard Palin nor Bachmann and turn the sound down, I'm sure we'd think they were not stupid and/or ugly -- the sound is what affects our view of them.

Con men find them attractive I gather.

[Xipe Totec]

121. A train wreck is attractive, but it doesn't look good

calling her attractive isn't necessarily a compliment.

[Shining Jack]

127. Lol !

Good one ! :rofl:

[Whisp]

163. perfect. I get it now. hahaha!!!

like flies are attracted to shit?

[mstinamotorcity]

194. A Very Good One

+ 100000000000000000000000000000000000000:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Hekate]

91. Palin does look hard, and you're the only one besides me who I've heard say that.

She's all cute and sparkly and wiggly at first, and I can see the charisma she has for a certain type -- but give her enough camera time and suddenly you see that hard set to her jaw, the mean mouth that goes with the hateful things she says, and that's chilling. Sarah Palin is ugly inside.

Hekate

[BlueMTexpat]

111. I've thought that from the first moment that she made the

deliberately outrageous crack about community organizers at the Repub convention. That was clear evidence of a mean and hard streak. Her delight at how the comment was received by the "red meat" crowd and almost every word that she has uttered since have only reinforced the "hard" impression for me.
Also, as someone who is "pro-choice" to the bone, I was literally appalled by her behavior when she went into labor with Trig. I fully support whatever choice a woman ultimately makes, so long as she is not "coerced" into making it. That's my bottom line. But if she chooses to carry a pregnancy to term, then she has an obligation to behave responsibly, IMO. Under no circumstances could Palin's pre-Trig birth behavior be called responsible, and that is giving her the benefit of the doubt that Trig is actually her birth child. If that behavior does not epitomize pure selfishness and outright callousness, I don't know what does.
I am also among those outraged by the fact that Palin, in particular, actually believes that she is anywhere near in the same class as someone like Hillary Clinton, who is a warm, compassionate, very intelligent - and truly witty (as opposed to Sarah's bullying "humor") - woman. Palin isn't even fit to lick the sole of Hillary's shoes.
That McInsane could so cynically and callously select someone such as Palin to be literally a heartbeat away from the highest office in the land would have damned him forever in my eyes - except that I already knew about his deliberate headline-seeking (rather than the so-called "maverick" label that the media loved to use) behavior already and had never found anything in that behavior to make me trust him.
Sorry for the rant! But about SP's hardness, we are 100% kindred spirits. :hi:

[mac56]

146. Quoting The Northern Pikes: they ain't pretty - they just look that way.

[NewJeffCT]

178. The conservative UK magazine The Economist summed her up perfectly

Sarah Palin "boob bait for bubba"

[47of74]

11. My sister has NO love for Sarah Palin

None, nada, zip. I think she'd sooner support Satan than Palin for public office.

[Catshrink]

24. Unfortunately, I have three sisters who adore her.

I have no words to explain what happened to them. We have a ban on talking politics in the family, at least if I'm in the room.

[onpatrol98]

142. LOL

I can't talk about politics with my family. I'm a democrat and I'm in a family of democrats and I still don't discuss politics. We fight even amongst ourselves.

[proud patriot]

12. My Republican grandmother thinks Palin is a joke

and so do I

[tigereye]

38. hey PP!

Good to see you - how are things? :hi: :hug:

[MarshalltheIrish]

93. Lucky!

BOTH of my Republican grandmothers are absolutely in love with her. It's horrifying really...one of them actually went to a Women for Palin rally during the election, and she wasn't even there!

[seabeyond]

13. ah, just cause we are jealous. nothing to do with huge ass step back on feminism or

being a bimbo for the male audience and brain dead. nothing to do with a lousy mom, using her kids for her advantage and ignoring her parenting role in all other circumstances.

you betcha

[dana_b]

14. argh!!

women from the 1800s, maybe. Although I don't count because I'm one of those evil "San Francisco liberals". I absolutely LOVE that San Francisco and a lot of the Bay Area is used as some sort of liberal bastion.

[Quantess]

17. They call 21% "astonishingly low".

Sorry, I'm not "astonished" at all. Personally, I would have expected her favorability among women to be around 10% or 15%. But then, I'm always surprised at just how many RW lunatics there are in the USA.

[DCKit]

23. Guess that insane 29% is mostly comprised of angry old white men.

It's good to know that only 21% of our sisters are that gullible and willfully ignorant. But it would be great if it were only the 10% to 15% you imagine. Then again, that would make us men disproportionately ignorant on an unacceptable level.

[progressoid]

33. Yep, I find 21% frightenly high.

That means that 1 in 5 of the women I meet could be a Palin supporter? :scared:

[Quantess]

36. No, I assume that 90% of the women I meet would disapprove of Palin

And hopefully the women in your community as well. Regionally speaking.
But that also means there are pockets of the USA where her approval rating is more like 40%.

[progressoid]

46. The more I think about it.

21% might be a bit low around here. I can already think of at least 5 women I know that would likely support her. :banghead:

I gotta get out of here.

[Quantess]

107. progressoid....

((((hugs)))) Maybe you can get out of there, yourself, and take a couple of women with you..

[Gidney N Cloyd]

19. My staunch repub mom voted Dem in 2008 for the first time in her life because she hated Palin.

[bjb]

84. My democratic Mother did just the

opposite and voted Republican for the first time in her 87 years because she loves Palin!

[lunatica]

20. I dislike Newt far more than I dislike Palin

She's just plain ignorant and pure dumb greedy. He's downright as mean as they come. He's accountable for much of the hateful bile we're dealing with today. He and his ilk unleashed Palin and her nails on a chalkboard, banshee screeching on the world. He must be so proud of himself. I hope she kicks him in the political nuts soon.

He hates women and I imagine it's because he's got a itty bitty button sized dick (with a very little 'd').

[blondeatlast]

52. Yup, yup, and yup again. Newt is likely more responsible for the Teabaggers

than Glenn Beck even wishes he were (along with Grover Norquist and Frank Luntz).

[Enthusiast]

133. I agree.

Newt is even more despicable than Palin.

[hlthe2b]

22. Only teabagger women like her--21%, that sounds about right

The same women who can not/will not think for themselves, but defer to right wing fundamentalist male-dominated religions to tell them what to think and do. They see Palin as one of them. Because their men are "enamored" by Palin, then she is "safe" for their women to likewise worship.

[lunatica]

54. Those women may be waiting to be told what to think

But in my experience they all talk just the way she does. In platitudes, one liners and they're loud, crass and highly opinionated. I've often wondered just how hard it must be to willfully stay as ignorant as they do. Oh! And they're proud of being ignorant and uninterested too.

[hlthe2b]

65. Yup.. but the views they parrot are the views of the

men in their life--fathers, husbands--or what they've been told is "correct" on the "safe" media (i.e., Faux News)

But, yes, they are very outspoken and opinionated within that construct. Uggh... It is hard to say what is most revolting-- hearing the moronic, uneducated Faux News pundits and the likes of Palin and Bachman pushing these memes, or hearing the parroting and unthinking echo chamber among their followers.

Disgusting- all the way around. Is it any wonder the RETHUGS are so 'anti-education'? Keep 'em dumb and uninformed to keep their votes.

[gkhouston]

26. If by "feminist icon" you mean "don't be like this, EVER", then hell, yeah, she's an icon.

Newt used to be a lot smarter about being an idiot. :eyes:

[Strelnikov_]

27. Gotta agree with the Pillsbury Dough Boy on this one

"unique, can-do qualities"

Quitting 2-1/2 years into a 4 year term is a truly unique variant of 'can-do'.

[saltpoint]

28. It seems to me that women have good reason to dislike Sarah Palin.

Palin's public persona is the "rugged pioneer individualist," the moose-guttin' mama of the permafrost, the not-afraid-of-anything gal, the outrageous taunter of the status quo.

She clearly wants to be President, but her political profile includes a strong secessionist component. Her affiliation with a group which advocates secession is documented. She is not rooted in Madison's and Jefferson's vision to know anything BUT a secessionist impulse as a political reaction. On the stage in St. Paul in 2008 she mocked the community organizing by Barack Obama. And her own commitment to the principle of public service is so fragile that she couldn't manage to complete her term as Governor of Alaska.

Most women -- and for that matter most men -- do not share a strong secessionist impulse versus their better-understood U.S. citizenship, with all its attendant responsibilities and privileges -- and most women and most men do not quit as easily as Palin quits. They don't squawk as much as Palin squawks. They don't conduct isolative, disconnected lives at a remove from basic knowledge of how things work the way Palin does. And those who are parents do not reduce their kids to theater props whenever the cameras are rolling.

In short, most women and men in the country are pulling their weight and working more or less together toward commonly-held ongoing views of a safe and satisfying landscape for their lives, for each others' lives, and for the lives of their children's children's children. They do not sense any such commitment in Palin, and with good reason, because it is not there in Palin.

[patrice]

76. +1~

[saltpoint]

87. Hey patrice! hi there, and good to see ya.

:hi:

[patrice]

89. Hi saltpoint! It's good to see you too!

I'm here just about as much as usual, but in more of a reading mode lately for some reason.

Did you see proud2blib's pictures from the Rove:Hannity love-fest yesterday?

I was there; it was fun! Makes me want to do more of that sort of thing.

[saltpoint]

130. You get around, patrice. You're havin' fun!

I say keep up the good work.

These are odd times with the Baggers and Beck and Hannity etc. but I hope in the end cooler brows will prevail.

[left coaster]

29. Hey, Newt.. I have some news for you..

Just having a uterus does not a feminist icon make.. You ignorant ass.

[opihimoimoi]

30. NOOT is MOOT.....The disgraced Noot wishes he could help salvage the GOP and resurrect

his own agenda simultaneously....by bad mouthing Obama???

Hey NOOT...not this time...everyone noes you are an idiot when brain is engaged....

Your DICK got in the way

[Eg-ptiangirl]

31. I agree

[tigereye]

34. that's a relief. I have met very few women (granted my friends are all quite

liberal women who think Palin's a giant phony) - who actually like or admire Palin.


Newt talking about any aspect of feminism is just ridiculous. :eyes:


On edit, there was one work colleague who loved Palin (I think she liked Palin as the mom of a kid with special needs) and was afraid of Obama - and she was a Dem! It was the most bizarre thing, ever, she followed me around the office wondering if I was shilling for Obama. Very strange.

[seabeyond]

39. lucky you. i did. christmas '08. surprised the shit out of me.

had my mouth hanging open a number of times. granted, her hubby is a fox news watching, sexist asshole. but she is an artist. i expected liberal. damn, she went thru her love for palin, how unfair she was treated, how smart she is and she did not sell herself thru her sexuality. the lady was in my face yelling at me. we were at dinner.

as i say, many times my mouth just dropped open what she was saying. i could not believe she bought into that shit. her fans are some scary dudettes....

[tigereye]

40. yeah, I edited my post re the one woman I did meet who liked Palin

it's very bizarre, eh?


:hi: sea!

[spanone]

55. she is extremely dangerous. extremely.

[seabeyond]

60. bah hahah. sounds ominous. who? the supporter or palin? why?

because she can win or encourage violence?

[RayStar]

114. Clueless and dangerous

She really should be if not on a list for dangerous people for the government to watch.

[Hamlette]

41. She reminds us of the bitch we hated in high school, her development arrested there

some of the bitches outgrew it (and frankly, all of us had our moments) but she's still there. Being catty, being mean, saying its cool to be stupid as long as you are beautiful the men will all flock to you anyway.

Unfortunately she fell into the trap many women fall into: you can get attention by looking pretty, dressing nice, acting sexy. You don't have to perform for attention. Quit your job, buy nice clothes, say mean things about people, you'll get by.

She'll be in for a very rude awakening in 20 years when even plastic surgery can't make her pretty enuf to draw crowds.

What is it with the GOP and pretty, brainless women?

[Bobbieo]

43. Bet Cindy McCain is included in that 21%.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

57. Cindy rose higher in my opinion of her with this

[muffin1]

175. Me, too!

I love that picture. I'm not sure Cindy believes in half the things gramps does. And to me, it looks like Cindy wants to smack Palin.


:hi:

[karynnj]

137. I doubt it

Although John McCain continues to defend his choice - maybe because he feels it reflects on him, many people in that campaign have completely turned on Palin. They have done this is in a far more open way than I have ever seen.

I would be willing to bet that Cindy McCain did not like the winking VP candidate - and might feel that McCain would have done better with a different VP. At least he might have run a less disgusting campaign.

[spanone]

49. newt is a liar, i guess the media has forgotten that.

[old mark]

53. Neut is , of course, known to hate women for anything other than

incidental sex. Ask his wife and the several congressional pages he was banging when he divorced that wife-while she was hospitalized with cancer.

This makes him a republican expert on women.

mark

[lunatica]

56. Now you went and put poison in my mind!!

Now I have to put clorox up my nose to clean my frontal lobe just thinking about newt banging anything with his itty bitty button dick with a small 'd'.

[old mark]

79. Size matters......sorry, Neut.......

Please - easy on the clorox.:hi:

mark

[Manifestor_of_Light]

64. Newt knows nothing about female anatomy or females in general.

Anybody else remember when he said women couldn't serve in combat, in trenches, because after 30 days they would get "infections"???

He doesn't know the diff between "Infection" and "menstrual period". Idiot. :banghead:

Amazing these Repuke men who tell women what to do and have not the slightest grasp of female anatomy and physiology. This includes some that are OB/GYNs like Rep. Ron Paul and Sen. Tom Coburn.
Complete idiots. Ignore the facts when it doesn't fit their anti-abortion, no=prenatal care ideology.

[Raine]

58. She's a disgrace and an embarassment to women

I cringe at not only her voice but her stupidity and whining victim role she takes.

[Aristus]

59. Boy, is THAT the truth!

My wife is a conservative Republican. (She calls herself one, anyway; personally, I peg her at a slightly-right-leaning moderate Dem.) When Grampy McCain selected Iquitarod to be his VP Candidate, my wife was livid. Before then, she really liked McCain. When she found out about Palin and what a narcissistic dipshit she is, she was furious. "Did he think I would vote for her just because she's a WOMAN?!?!?" She lost all respect for McCain, and can't even look at the tv when Palin's on there.

[seabeyond]

61. that is what pissed me off so much, as a woman. they give women that to vote for....

thinking we are so fuckin stupid. but then when they honor a stupid palin why wouldnt they see all of us as shallow and stupid. she exactly represents what these assholes think a woman is.

[nenagh]

67. Wow, I feel better already...

I do think she made a mistake by increasing her wealth visibility.. <# of pearl necklaces per # of charm bracelets> and also her shrinking skirt lengths which she wears so successfully speak more to hours in a gym than Wasilla mum looking after baby and family....

maybe finally more women see her as the threat she is...

One can only hope the trend continues..

[eppur_se_muova]

68. Newt:feminism::Palin:nuclear weapons

i.e. Newt is to feminism what Palin is to nuclear weapons. Not only clueless, but clueless that he is clueless.

[Dappleganger]

70. Some of us know an idiot when we see one.

Momma doesn't suffer fools for very long.

[iris27]

72. Except those (anti-feminist) women who do love her, REALLY love her.

It scares me how much blind adoration she gets from my sister-in-law (brother's wife) and the other women of her family. *shudder*

But then, their whole family is about 2 steps away from those "Quiverful" types...she's one of 5, all home-schooled, and she and her 2 older sisters are practically in competition to see who can have the most babies. They're all so proud that their mom will be a grandma six times over before she turns 50.

[agentS]

73. I'd love to see what her numbers are for minority women

My estimate for black women -0%
My estimate for latinas 5%
My estimate for asian women 6%

My estimates may be a bit off, but somehow I don't see her breaking 10% in any minority bracket.

You can't win an election when under 10% of any minority group likes you....

[mwb970]

123. I'd like to see a geographic breakdown of her support.

Could it be that she is more beloved in certain backward areas of the country that will remain nameless than in more enlightened places, like the North?

[patrice]

74. She's "telling" all of our men that she'd do them if they were alone. Yeah, we don't like her.

[Hekate]

78. Strumpet.The women of centuries past would've known her type the instant they clapped eyes on her

Feminist my rosy roseola. Seeing as how she's from Alaska, "gold-digger" comes to mind promptly.

English majors of the world unite! What would Edith Wharton have said about Sarah Palin?

Hekate

[The Wizard]

141. She could be the model

for the Jane Shore inflatable doll.

[JBoy]

81. Somehow her 15 minutes of fame remain stubbornly stuck at 14:59.

[Ishoutandscream2]

143. No kidding. It's the longest damn last minute ever

Like your team is trying to hold on to a lead in the last minute, and each second seems like an eternity. That's our Palin.

[stanwyck]

82. Newt is like that relative, or teacher, or friend's dad that we all have

who is so amazingly out of step. In Newt's case, 15 years behind the rest of the country. It's like when he's on The Daily Show. He tries to hard to fall into the vibe of the show, that his tone deaf fail is all the more obvious because of his painful yearning. He, like Rove, has been gloriously wrong countless times in the past few years. He's no longer the wonder boy, the know-it-all, the authority. He's a desperate man trying desperately to cling on to some kind of relevancy. He's grabbing at Palin's mini-skirted hem for dear life. Secretly, he's smart enough to know she's a cipher. But he's a man who needs someone to get him into the club. He's standing outside, the bouncer doesn't recognizer him, and then the right's "It" girl swishes by and he goes prostrate at her high-heeled feet hoping she'll let him tag along. And she will, as long as he kisses her feet and tells her she's cute.

[patrice]

90. Totally right! These people need a real job!!! One that requires them to actually work!

[MarshalltheIrish]

116. So true!

He was such an awful, overhyped Speaker and hasn't had a job like it since 1999...what good is he now? A total neo-con leftover.

[RainDog]

83. ...

inspired by another version of this posted here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=9328902&mesg_id=9328902

[gratuitous]

85. Ahhh, what do you chicks know, anyway?

When I want to know what women think, I'll turn to CNN and listen for Newt Gingrich. There's the voice of a whole generation of women!

[Lucy Goosey]

88. Hee!

Don't ask me, I'm just a girl!

:rofl:

[MarshalltheIrish]

92. Oh gawd Newt

Does this philandering partisan hack ever have anything resonant to say? I know he's an incredibly smart guy and I respect his political acumen, but he's little more than a schill for failed right wing policies these days (i.e. his hypocritical support for Proposition 8, which, as a thrice-married man, he of course knows better than ANYONE else :P).

Furthermore, glad to see the numbers from this poll are so damning. I have always been baffled why any woman with any respect for her rights would endorse her. Whereas Obama's significance to the African American community is fortified by their tendency to vote Democratic, Palin would just be an unfitting and embarrassing choice. She'd club women's rights to death with all the finesse of the cave troll from the first "Lord of the Rings" movie.

Marshall

P.S. First post here. I frequent sites like The Frank Factor, Change.org, Twinkie Town (as indicated by my avatar :) ), and so forth, so I thought I'd give the legendary DU a spin. Hi all!

[patrice]

97. Hi MarshalltheIrish! Welcome to the DU and Have! Fun!

:hi:

[MarshalltheIrish]

113. Thanks for the welcome

Love your LGBT stripes there! How do I post a picture that way again at the bottom of my posts? URL? Yes, I'm that infantile in my first moments here!

[patrice]

144. .

User Options > Profile > Signature + insert the location of the image into your signature line wherever you want it, or just use it without a signature line.

:hi:

[MarshalltheIrish]

192. He he

Thanks. Hope to have a picture of Richard Riley to punctuate my every post.

[MarshalltheIrish]

193. AHA!

Now just to make it smaller...

[bridgit]

96. Pft, no doubt, only RW neocon gas bags like Newt get all jizzy for Palin...

[thelordofhell]

101. This time next year she'll be on either

Dancing With The Stars or Celebrity Apprentice.

[Arugula Latte]

104. I've never, ever seen any woman, any person, extract such abject loathing from women I know.

It was unprecedented. Women I knew went out of their way to tell me and email how much they despised her. My own mother calls her "The Evil One."

[Daphne08]

109. And I've never felt such loathing for another woman... ever. n/t

[Mariana]

115. Revulsion is a normal and healthy reaction to an evil person.

So said M. Scott Peck in his fascinating book "People of the Lie". It's a protective instinct, he said - you'll tend to stay the hell away from people you loathe, and in most cases, that limits the harm they can do to you.

I actually have met a few other people who repulsed me as strongly as Palin does. They were all dangerous and destructive in one way or another to the people around them. However, I met those people personally. Palin is the first person to make me feel this way so strongly just from watching and listening to her on the TV.

[robertpaulsen]

105. Calling Palin a feminist is like calling Dubya a self-made man.

"Unique can-do qualities"?! Is that reich-wing historical revisionist double-talk for "Quit governing less than halfway through first term to cash in on book tour"?!

There are times I really hope she gets the Republican nomination in 2012 thinking it would be the biggest Democratic landslide since 1964. Other times I fear she might be the http://open.salon.com/blog/madame_bitch/2008/09/16/is_sarah_palin_the_whore_of_babylon">Whore of Babylon from the book of Revelations.

But right now, seeing how her poll numbers stand, I'm just laughing.

[RainDog]

108. I tell fundies she's the whore of babylon

just to watch their heads explode. :rofl:

if they want to claim obama is the anti-christ, I figure it might do them some good to have the idea of her as the whore of babylon somewhere in their knee-jerk religious connotations for every era since such ideas have existed.

[bamacrat]

110. Stupid people like Palin and some are women so...

they could say 75% of women polled love Palin if they only poll stupid Faux viewers.

[smalll]

117. You are correct. But this is why Scott "Cosmo" Brown will be her running-mate --

they put together that first "all-hottie" ticket, and I will worry, I have to admit, given the brain-dead decadence that passes for today's culture. The party don't start till we walk in, and all that. :shrug: They'll brush their teeth with a bottle of Jack. cause when they leave for the night, they ain't coming back.

[LynneSin]

158. Not anymore, Scott Brown has refused to show up to the next Tea Party event

Scott is in a real pickle - he got elected as a whim in one of the most liberal states in the union. Lightening may hit once but rarely will it hit twice. I highly doubt that Massachusetts will embrace someone who associates himself with hate groups like the Tea Party.

And since it seems very likely that Obama is going to nominate someone associated with Harvard Law school, Brown can't join in with these idiots about rejecting Obama's supreme court pick. Because even Brown knows to vote against Harvard pretty much is his kiss of death when re-election comes around in 2012.

What really scares me about Brown is that he'll play the moderate the next 2 years to up his re-election changes. ANd somehow Massachusettians will buy into that rhetoric, re-elect him and trust me - he gets re-elected that guy will steer very hard core to the right.

[gleaner]

119. She is the worst ...

McCain never got that either. I guess in his world all women are interchangeable like widgets. Someone should tell Newt that women don't like him much either.

[NoFederales]

124. I am so encouraged by the many sentiments about Palin's "qualities"--

I, too, find her remarkably depraved. As a male, looking into her eyes is like looking through a window into a kind of hell I'd just as soon not get near.

Unfortunately, I live in a neighborhood of such expressed provincial. backward magnitude. that it's practioners fawn and spew themselves into fits of admiration for such as Newt, Palin, Bush, et al, and worse--feel they should share with others.

I do not like Palin's brand.

NoFederales

[Enthusiast]

125. REC! LMAO!

"But other than that, Gingrich appears to be dead on in his "feminist" analysis."

[Enthusiast]

126. I've noticed some

RW type young women in my area sporting a Sarah Palin look-alike hair style. I live in a pretty conservative area. I imagine in Newt's circle of friends there is great enthusiasm for Palin. But that is as far as her popularity goes.

[momster]

149. That's just the fad of the 'bump-it'

Don't be alarmed. It too will pass.

[Rectangle]

132. My wife told me: "That whole Winky/Flirty thing, doesn't work

on women" "It may work on the old-fat guys, but women
size her up pretty quick" :rofl: :evilgrin:

[TheCowsCameHome]

134. My SIL worships the ground she walks on.

It's enought to make me vomit.

[The Wizard]

139. Palin is a foil

to make Marsha Blackburn look reasonable when the next Republican convention rolls around on 2012.

[onpatrol98]

145. I guess I really don't consider her one way or the other

I guess I don't really think about Palin in a substantive way. She doesn't really illicit any strong emotions from me. I wouldn't vote for her. I wouldn't want to be near her with a gun. But, as far as drawing any feelings of vehemence, she just doesn't do it for me. I'm actually very reluctant to call women dumb and stupid. I'm often surprised by the number of women who feel comfortable doing this. I can't think of any woman that I would feel okay doing that with...even republican women.

I just feel really uncomfortable doing it. Her party affiliation differs. Our politics certainly differ. She elicits a strong negative reaction from my mother, though. We had a good talk about it. And, we don't discuss her anymore. To me, it was an eye opener though. My mother has always been a very strong advocate for women and women's rights. And, I think her opinion was that Palin was not. I wish I understood more about Feminism.

This gets into some really strange gender politics for me. Some of the Hillary Clinton rants I have overheard, head into that direction for me as well.

Oh well...just keep her (Palin) out of the White House and I think we'll all be better off.

[madrchsod]

148. where is marquis de sade when you need him.....?

he`d have a thing or two to write about mrs palin...

[mstinamotorcity]

150. No women don't really like Ms Sarah one damn bit

She may not really know much about political issues, but that b---h knows about the free market rule to capitalize on a prosperous opportunity. Look at what she is doing. She is taking her you betcha real america speech to the bank. She has figured out that she can play simple minded country back woods suzy and appeal to a certain audience of people and make a killing all while she gains more notoriety for suggesting harm to others. And its really a shame she has sold out her humanity for the all mighty dollar,because she sold out the country when she was pushing for Alaska to secession from the union.She didn't quit the governorship because she wasn't going to do Alaskans any justice (her words) its because she couldn't make any money as long as she was governor.And don't forget there was close to half a million dollars that she couldn't get her hands on until she left office. She is a cold calculating slick under the you betcha bulls--t tongue right wing media tea party money getting ho!!!!!!!!:puke:

[JerseygirlCT]

153. Unlike many of the men, we see right through her phoney

"down home, folksy" act. We also know she's no friend to us.

And the winking. Do I even need to mention the winking?

[fubarsnafu]

155. Palin and Her "Women Friends"...N.O.W.

Current NOW President, Terry O’Neill, Bought and Paid For By SarahPAC? - PART I - UPDATE
http://palingates.blogspot.com/2010/04/current-now-president-terry-oneill.html

Current NOW President, Terry O’Neill, Bought and Paid For By SarahPAC?
PART II - The Elaine Lafferty Files
http://palingates.blogspot.com/2010/04/current-now-president-terry-oneill_07.html

This has been going on for some time. Briefly, McCain and SP-PAC money bought "feminist" write-ups on PALIN and spent copious effort to hide it all. This makes The Daily Beast look pretty damn bad, after all they published these women supporting Palin.

N.O.W. Supporters need to know about it.

[beac]

156. Note to Newt: Women really, really don't like you either!

The only thing women would "like" about you two is for you both to STFU.

[LynneSin]

157. If Sarah Palin was 50lbs overweight but everything else was the same...

the republican party would have never embraced her.

If anything Palin makes me even more pissed off over the republican party because they think because they put a 'pretty' face out there to spew their hate that somehow we'll better embrace it. "Oooo look at this pretty woman, perhaps I should listen to what she has to say".

Sorry but alot of women out there are NOT buying that. Sure, Palin is pretty on the outside but she's ugly as hell in the inside and for large majority of us women we see right thru that.

[ckimmy57]

162. WHAT?

Sarah Palin is the LAST person, male or female, I would use for any type of role model. That damn woman is dumber then a box of rocks

[Arkana]

165. Newt is apparently unaware of the results in 2008.

LOOK AT THE CROSSTABS, LIZARD BOY!

[abelenkpe]

167. The woman is an embarrassment

to all other women, mothers, career women and to the nation as a whole. Why she can't recognize this is beyond me.

But hey, with 21 percent favorable rating I hope that she is the republican nominee in 2012. :evilgrin:

[KansDem]

169. Keep projecting, Newt

How that SOB has stay around for this long is beyond me!

[YOY]

171. There is only one "Gingrich" who's opinion I care about on the matter...

and her name ain't Newt.

[NewJeffCT]

179. According to the VP debate "insta polls"

women hated her & men were so-so on her, but didn't hate her.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

187. If Palin looked like Madeline Albright, nobody would pay her any attention.

[BreweryYardRat]

191. A female acquaintance of mine specifically said that Palin was the deal-breaker for her.

Apparently, she'd have been happy to vote for McCain, but the Loose Moose wasn't something she could stomach.