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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 05:54 PM
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Shadow's Taxicab reports: Some Vets I've met.
For the purpose of this piece the veterans I’m referring to are specifically from wars other than the current conflict.

We have a healthy population of veterans of foreign wars in our little city and with a little prodding and listening you learn who they are. I always relish the chance to engage them about their view of their country today and as with the current warriors I probably make too many of them relive bad memories. For the greater good of these columns I guess I’ll bear that guilt although it tasks me.

Several of our regulars I’ve spoken at length with about their service and their opinion of “The War on Terror”. From the Vietnam vets I get a sense, almost universally, that they are having a serious sense of déjà vu and I truly believe it’s affecting some of them badly. It’s almost as if the parallels they are seeing are increasing their own PTSD. Some are simply horrified that our country seemingly didn’t learn a thing from the disaster that they lived through. Some of them tend to go drinking more than before and come home in worse states. You have to know these people locally to see the contrast perhaps but it is subtly noticeable.

One Desert Storm veteran who was the subject of an earlier report frightened me with his apparent longing and nostalgia for what he called “the beauty of war.” He basically thought we should enforce our will upon Iraq, whether they wanted us to or not, for their own good.

World War Two vets I’ve met have had mixed opinions but I’d say the majority are against the war, or don’t see it as in our national interest past the obvious oil factor. Many of them have a long ingrained loyalty to the military and the idea of “the Commander in Chief” bordering on religious, but realize that our men and women aren’t being honored by this war and how it has been run.

Most describe Bush as “an idiot”, “a disgrace” and even “horse’s ass” has been used by at least one passenger in the shout box which is my taxi. Feelings towards the troops fighting Bush’s war range from the honor and respect that you’d expect. To fear for these young men and women from those knowing the horrors they see. Surprisingly, and even more surprising to me was who it came from, I had one Vietnam vet that I know pretty well from around town express some fairly venomous sentiments about the men and women fighting today.

For the purpose of this essay we’ll call my passenger “John” to protect his identity. I’ve known John, not well, but as a fellow barfly and cab customer for years. I’d known for a while he was a Vietnam vet but he’s never been one to rant on about his experiences, in my company at least. I’ve known from our conversations in the taxi that he’s far from a George Bush fan. I’m embarrassed to say I’m not sure exactly what John does but he’s a self made successful businessman and has some contract work with the military base I’m near. I picked him up as we do almost daily from a local pub. Always early in the evening, John is an after work, few beers for a few hours type of regular. My recent trip with him found him a little drunker and a little later than usual. We made the usual small talk and I always try to interject some politics because I know it fires him up and we usually end up chatting in his driveway for several minutes after the ride is done. Get me going on GW and you have a conversation you’ll have a hard time getting out of what can I say?

Anyway he asked me how my night was going and I mentioned pretty slow because all the work was on Drum at the moment and I had let my military ID expire and was costing myself some serious money. He asked why I let it go and I just said I needed a break from them for a while. Not completely understanding where I was coming from John launched into a tirade saying, “I know what you mean. I’m so sick of them whining about things. I’m a Vietnam vet; I never got three meals a fucking day or hot showers. I lived in a fucking hole for a year.”

I was taken aback a little but said I understood. What bothered me is that you could physically see him reliving it and the memories working on him. Like some horrible movie that must play in his head without warning. I felt terrible once again for making someone see a nightmare they should be able to escape. That never should have happened in the first place. I pray I never have such scars that never go away. Tip your cabbie.
Shadow out.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 06:05 PM
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1. The Nightmare of Vietnam stays with you
Now more then ever have my ugly nightmares returned. I want this dam war over. Now VA Bosses get huge kick backs. Dam I just get more and more pissed off everyday. The Only way I stay sane is by being here as many times as I can be.
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 08:34 PM
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5. I've read some of your other posts and I admire you, I'm glad you're here.
I'm a vet too, Navy, but never fought. The "moving wall" was set up on my base in Texas for a while and I spent all my spare time with the people there helping them set up and tear down, and got to know some vets and their families, and I was allowed to read some names during a ceremony.

My biological father spent three tours in Vietnam and I'm told that it killed his soul. I never got to meet him, he died in 1999.

I was never able to figure out Vietnam.

:hug:
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 06:13 PM
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2. I have a friend who served in Vietnam
he says he can NEVER get a complete night of sleep. Every single night, memories from the war creep into his sleep and wake him up every couple of hours. All he has said is that they are horrific memories.

He also hates bushie
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:09 PM
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3. I am with John.
But what the hell...

Nothing that a few shots of tequila and a couple bottles of wine won't fix.

Since this shit started, I drink until I can't drink any more.

Every night.

Every morning, I wake up in bed and I cannot remember how I got there.

But at least I am sleeping.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:52 PM
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4. You guys take care of yourselves
we need you here.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 08:37 PM
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6. did you know that there are herbs that give you dreamless sleep?
Edited on Thu May-03-07 08:38 PM by crikkett
:smoke:

And in California it's legal for medicinal use.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 10:20 AM
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9. I don't know what you're smoking crikkett
but the herb I take gives me far from dreamless sleep. Quite the contrary. Alcohol, in fact has always given me the most vivid and scary dreams though.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 02:05 PM
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11. Alcohol gives me very vivid dreams too.
As for the other stuff, I swea' ta gawd I'm telling you what many others have told me.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 02:05 PM
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12. Alcohol gives me very vivid dreams too.
As for the other stuff, I swea' ta gawd I'm telling you what many others have told me.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 05:14 PM
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13. I always have plenty of the finest Humboldt has to offer.
I am a multi-tasker and an expert, life-long practitioner in the art of getting totally whacked.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 11:51 AM
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14. Kids, don't try this at home
Professional Pot Smokers Union Local 24 Official Motto.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 02:07 AM
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7. The effects
of combat last forever. How we manage those effects determines how and how long we exist. That's why I'm wide awake at three in the morning. It just happens without warning. The returning GIs need our support and understanding.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 02:59 AM
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8. Shadow!
Good to see you posting again...been concerned about you. :hi:
Hope you are feeling better and things weren't as bad as you were fearing. :hug:
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 10:57 AM
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10. thanks for the report - put the bloody neo cons in prison

impeachment is not enough
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