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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:52 AM
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ASH OVER LOAD = FOOD Chain Disruption = POSSIBLE LARGE GLOBAL FAMINES
Large DieBacks = Less Advancement = Stagnation/Regression = Destabilization = Capacity to recover in question = Natures way of culling the weak/aged to strengthen genes to pass on

We need to look at this Ice Land Volcano with more than Passing Alarm....this might be real series...

Esp so if it last for a significant period...like 14 months 19 months??? The last time...it went off for 2 years

We just don't know....but the effects....? Like crop loss/reduction...grassland loss/deserfication....leading to FOOD CHAIN Disruption, Condition RED

UN and the US should be thinking of viable Contingency Plans

ASAP

Time Frame...assuming eruption is ongoing, we have Spring Summer to work with for food production increases outside of dust zone.....

series inquiries will get series responses re solutions...pm me.
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:24 AM
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1. It could cool the climate and reverse global warming
I don't buy the massive famine bit. Over reactions.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:00 PM
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28. I don't buy the reverse global warming bit...and yes...in your eyes..over reaction...not in mine
I hope I am wrong
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:29 AM
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2. Easy cowboy
Eyjafjallajökull is a very small volcano. If it's neighboring volcano Katla is triggered it would be a much more serious affair, but still only a fraction the size of Mt Pinatubo.

"Icelandic volcano won't affect the world's climate"
http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2010/04/16//2874939.htm

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:53 AM
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26. I think the report is downplaying risk....I hope I am wrong but I don see anything wrong with
preps to contend with food supplies increase....globally speaking
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:50 PM
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39. Wait. Your OP was serious?
All the crazy misspellings and strange punctuation weren't part of an elaborate satirical jibe?

Life confuses Codeine some days.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:56 PM
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40. i did mention "POSSIBLE" in the OP....but that we should be prepped...that is all
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:48 AM
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3. I told you, we never should have bombed the moon.
See? See? SEE???????
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:54 AM
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6. Especially considering how much pull the Moon has with the Earth.
:hide:


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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 06:37 PM
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44. I've said it before, the Lunar Lobby has WAY too much influence in congress.
Not to mention the Werewolf vote.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:43 AM
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4. Not like any howayawn volcanoes haven't erupted for longer...
I recommend 2 oz of brandy in 12 oz of no fat milk, sweeten if you want with Hawaiian cane sugar
Drink and contemplate purple mountains above the shore glowing in the morning sunlight
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:40 AM
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21. we got Purple Haze instead....extra fat FATTIES are the BEST for us in the WEST
Hawaaian Volcanos are tiny compared to the IceLand thingy and not producing the amount of crap as...
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:51 AM
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5. Mt. Pinatubo was worse - no famine resulted
The Tambora euruption in 1815 was much worse - and produced the Year Without Summer in 1816. It was hardship for New England farmers but produced no widespread global famine.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:05 AM
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8. I don't necessarily believe that we're facing global famine, however
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 09:06 AM by Lyric
your argument isn't very sound. The food supply chain back then was very different than it is today. In order to create shortages and hunger today, the whole world wouldn't need to be affected--just certain nations. Since the global food supply is no longer as local as it was back then, shortages in Canada (just a random example) could affect all the nations that Canada exports to, and so on for other import/export relationships between nations.

I'm not saying it WILL happen. I'm just saying that comparing it to the Tambora eruption is not really a good argument because the world and its food supply has significantly changed since then.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:30 AM
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16. That is the arguement...in the ole daze, the worlds pop was less than a billion
now...its 6.6 Billion and our global resources have dropped to desperation status...we don't see it in developed Nations but the vast amount of humanity hanging on by threads are at risk for any disruptions.

It would not hurt to be PREPARED...

As them Scouts like to say....>>>BE PREPARED>>>

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:35 AM
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18. Conditions have changed since then....our pop is hugh....our food storage is very low
the risk for adverse weather changes resulting from this event is real....
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:02 AM
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7. Well done!...
an almost perfect parody of panicked reaction post. Right down to "this might be real series".

:applause:

Sid
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:23 AM
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13. It was supposed to be PROACTIVE,,,,,oh well....
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:30 AM
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15. you tried. -- it is already messing up things


won't mess up the whole world but the whole world will have to make adjustments to accommodate what is happening.

which may be hard to do! because of climate change.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:36 AM
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19. Thanks...thats all we can do...try.....
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:37 AM
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9. OmegaMinimo hacked your username!
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 09:37 AM by Codeine
:rofl:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:41 AM
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23. I don't know when it happened, but....
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SpookyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:07 PM
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30. Self delete - better angels
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 12:16 PM by SpookyCat


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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:39 AM
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10. The Ice Age is coming
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:21 AM
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12. LOL...Love that CAT....
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:29 AM
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14. Oh Great... Now There's Gonna Be A Run On Aluminum Too ???
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 11:30 AM by WillyT


:rofl:

:kick:
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:40 AM
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22. Frikin' Hilarious! We're all doomed! I just bought $50,000 worth of MREs!!!
MREs = Meals Ready to Eat have shelf lives of at least five years. They are used a lot in the military, but you can buy them anywhere. Stock up before the doom and gloom!!!!
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Mother Smuckers Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:03 AM
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11. It is already critical! You can't imagine what a hassle I had getting Beluga Caviar the other day.
:shrug:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:31 AM
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17. Nature no longer culls the weak, Corporations cull the poor instead
(as far as our species is concerned)
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:41 AM
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24. absolutely right... and right wingers love it
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:05 PM
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47. Yep, and they sing praises to their corporate masters as they are being culled.
durp!1



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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:37 AM
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20. AGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:44 AM
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25. I'm more worried about you using up the world's ellipsis supply nt
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:53 AM
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27. The volcano! In Ice Land! I'm series!!!..nt
Sid
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:45 PM
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34. Nah. There are plenty. Here, have some of mine:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:05 PM
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29. This isn't even close to the scale required to cause global famine.
The issue with this volcano is that it's close enough to Europe to disrupt air travel with the ash cloud.

But really, volcanoes erupt all the time, and aside from the location, this one's not unusual.

Incidentally, some ashfall is actually beneficial - IIRC, doesn't it act as a fertilizer?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:27 PM
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31. Unless them ashes have Nitrogen phosphate potash it ain't too valuble... the sulpher is good but
plants want the first 3....

Its the duration factor...how long will this baby go on??
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:41 PM
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32. CALM THE FUCK DOWN!!!
This isn't going to cause any famines.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:47 PM
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35. I did say "POSSIBLE"
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:44 PM
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33. MtStHelens blanketed the large growing area of WA, it is fine now.
Not sure if this is real or not, what with all the "series" bits.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:50 PM
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37. MSH eruption was brief....this one might go on for years....only time will tell...
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:48 PM
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36. OMG!!!!!!!1111!!!!1111!1!!!!!















Not gonna happen.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:50 PM
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38. This is a knee jerk reaction
people need to take a chill pill and then calm the fuck down.

The airlines can fly around this thing if they want to and they
should stop making this another major disaster.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:56 PM
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41. !
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:57 PM
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42. That's nothing compared to when the magma men come out.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:00 PM
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43. Its the Magma WOMEN we gatta worry about...thems HOT
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 06:44 PM
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45. Brilliant satire. n/t
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 06:51 PM
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46. The ash could have dire consequences to be sure but that's nothing compared to the threat posed by
CHEMTRAILS!™
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:15 PM
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48. Is this the History Channel?
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