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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 06:23 AM
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Top 10 Men Who Were Really Women
http://listverse.com/2008/09/04/top-10-men-who-were-really-women/

In modern days, transvestitism (dressing as a member of the opposite sex) has become a fairly commonplace occurrence. But in the past it was not only frowned upon, it was often seen as sinful. Due to laws which prevented women from performing in various parts of society, some women decided to live their lives as men. Some had successful lives, while others suffered as a consequence. Saint Joan of Arc dressed as a man to protect her virginity whilst living amongst soldiers and it proved to be her downfall when a kangaroo court found her guilty of heresy and executed her. But Saint Joan was not out to deceive and her trial was overturned and her good name restored. Unfortunately this was not true for some women in the past. For this list I have selected women who sought to disguise their true sex completely; that excludes the likes of George Sands who was known to be a woman and caused scandal by her transvestitism, and the female pirates Anne Bonny and Mary Read as their crews knew they were women.

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Brandon Teena


Teena Brandon was born in 1972 in Lincoln, Nebraska. As a child she was regarded as a tomboy and everyone called her Brandon. After being sexually abused by a male relative, she moved to Richardson County, Nebraska and began to live entirely as a male. She became friends with two ex convicts John Lotter and Marvin “Tom” Nissen. She also began dating a woman (Lana Tisdel). None of her friends knew she was female. On December 15th, Brandon was jailed for forging checks and his girlfriend, Lana, bailed him out. Because Brandon was in the women’s section of the prison, Lana discovered her true sex. According to Lana she stopped “dating” Brandon at this time. When Brandon’s arrest was published in the paper under her proper name, Lotter and Nissen discovered the truth. They raped Brandon and beat her. Brandon went to the police but a large number of administrative errors resulted in her case not being investigated. Eventually Lotter and Nissen would go on to shoot Brandon and two others who were hiding her. Lotter was sentenced to death and Nissen to life imprisonment. The story of Brandon Teena became the subject of the Academy award winning film, Boys Don’t Cry. Brandon is pictured above on the right.

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James Gray

James Gray was born in Worcester, England. As a child she played soldiers, but was otherwise seen as a normal young girl. In 1744 she married James Summs, and two years later gave birth to a daughter. Within a year her daughter had died and her husband had deserted her. She borrowed a man’s suit from her brother-in-law James Gray whose name she assumed. She began to travel, trying to find her husband who she later discovered had been executed for murder. She traveled to Portsmouth and joined the Royal Marines. She was sent in to battle twice, during which time she was wounded 11 times in the legs and once in the groin. It is not known how she concealed her sex when her groin wound was treated. In 1750 her unit returned to England and she revealed her true sex to her shipmates. She told her story to the papers and petitioned for a military pension which was, surprisingly, granted. Her military service was officially recognized and she eventually opened a pub called the “The Female Warrior”. She eventually remarried and had two children. Hannah died in 1792.

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Petter Hagberg


Petter Hagberg (Brita Nilsdotter) was born in 1756 in Finnerödja, Sweden. In 1785 she married Anders Peter Hagberg who was a soldier of the guard. Shortly after the marriage he was called away to participate in the Russo-Swedish war (1788 – 1790). At a loss without her husband, Brita dressed herself as a man and enlisted in the army to find him. She participated in the Battle of Svensksund (pictured above) and the Battle of Vyborg Bay as a marine. During her time there her commanding officer called out the name “Hagberg” and both she and her husband stepped forward – she found him at last. The two kept her sex a secret. Later, at the battle of Björkö Sund, Brita was wounded and ordered below deck to have her wounds taken care of. She went unwillingly and her sex was revealed. After the war she was given a pension (unheard of at the time) and was granted a license to trade (also unheard of for a married woman). She was awarded a medal of bravery and given a military funeral.

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Albert Cashier


Albert Cashier was born Jennie Irene Hodgers in 1843. In 1862, Hodgers disguised herself as a man and enlisted in the 95th Illinois Infantry Regiment under the name Albert Cashier. The regiment was under Ulysses S. Grant and fought in over 40 battles. Cashier managed to remain undetected as the other soldiers thought she was just small and preferred to be alone. Cashier was captured in battle but managed to escape back to Union lines after overpowering a guard. She fought with the regiment through the war until 1865. After the war, Cashier continued to live as a male, convincing everyone around her. For forty years Cashier worked as a church janitor, cemetery worker and street lamplighter, she voted as a man, and claimed a veterans pension. In 1910, she was hit by a car and broke her leg. A doctor discovered her secret but agreed to keep quiet. in 1911, Cashier moved to a soldier’s retirement home. After her mind began to deteriorate, attendants gave her a bath and discovered her true sex. She was forced to wear a dress from that time on. Cashier died in 1915 and was buried in her military garb. Her tombstone carried the words: “Albert D. J. Cashier, Co. G, 95 Ill. Inf.” – when she was finally traced back to Jennie Hodgers, a second tombstone was erected with both names on it.


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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:01 AM
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1. Re: Brandon Teena . . . ADMINISTRATIVE ERRORS????
My ass. If by administrative errors they mean "willful disrespect for his welfare by local law enforcement who spent more time harrassing him during the interview process than they did gathering useful information" then sure.

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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:31 AM
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8. I thought the same thing.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:54 AM
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12. "administrative errors" jumped out at me too
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:04 AM
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2. Very interesting post
Tell Blind Kitten I say Hi back
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:06 AM
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3. There was an anime series based loosely on #2 (Le Chevalier D'Eon) a few years ago.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 07:08 AM by eShirl
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:07 AM
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4. knr
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 07:07 AM by Mari333
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dynasaw Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:10 AM
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5. All the Bells
Ellis Bell, Acton Bell and Currer Bell, aka Emily, Jane and Charlotte Bronte.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:16 AM
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6. Women's History ---thanks, this was very interesting!
KnRnBookmarked
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:29 AM
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7. nice catch
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:59 AM
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9. Than you socal
That was very informative. I hadn't heard of most of these people before.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:15 AM
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10. Our favorite around here is Charley Parkhurst.
"A fierce stagecoach driver never afraid to use his gun."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Parkhurst
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:53 AM
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11. This book might interest you ... granted, I haven't read it myself.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 11:56 AM by eppur_se_muova
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:28 PM
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13. K&R
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:24 AM
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14. Thanks for posting. K&R n/t
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:27 AM
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15. K&R. Interesting reading. nt
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