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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:40 PM
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Colonists-vs.-Indians Game Rankles Tribes
Colonists-vs.-Indians Game Rankles Tribes

PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — One player racks up points by defeating Native American tribal leaders, the other by snuffing out settlements of English colonists. Capture Boston or Plymouth Colony? Victory is yours.

That's the gist of "King Philip's War," a board game based on a bloody and violent clash of the same name between colonists and Indian tribes in 17th-century New England, and developed by a company partly owned by former major league pitcher Curt Schilling.

The game's designer says he hopes to educate children and others about a war that cost thousands of lives but receives scant attention in history books. But some Native Americans want the game blocked from release, saying it trivializes the conflict and insensitively perpetuates a stereotype of Indian tribes as bellicose savages.

Tribe members protested the game in Providence last month, and a Facebook group with more than 260 members urges a Millersville, Md.-based company, MultiManPublishing, to halt production.

http://www.reznetnews.org/article/colonists-vs-indians-game-rankles-tribes-44510
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:54 PM
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1. Don't we have enough problems in the world without stirring up more trouble
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 01:56 PM by Bobbieo
with another silly conflict game? Educate children - my ass. It's all about money.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:14 PM
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2. Actually it's not all about the money
I was in this part of the game biz for 18 years as a game store owner and the print runs are exceptionally small, even by the "larger" companies with which I dealt ( in the 2500 to 5000 copy per run range, where a Parker Bros and alike usually start in the 50K range for small runs). The games do take historical topics and present them in a fashion that different from just reading about it in a book. Often those that play these game or simulations then go on to read more on the topic or historical era allowing the to be better informed. In this particular case the designer may have been better off to do additional research and perhaps involve the Native Americans, but I understand he is doing so now and I believe this is his first time out, we all learn by doing, so I would cut him some slack. These projects are a labor of love by the game designers and this "game industry" is pretty much a labor of love and a love of things historical by all those who are involved.

I dealt with Schilling briefly by email when he took over Multi Man publishing, I found him to be genuinely full of himself and I was completely underwhelmed with him as an individual, but he had picked up a game line that otherwise would have been unavailable when Avalon Hill went out of business, so you do what you have to do, to satisfy your customers.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:26 PM
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3. "Sometimes the Scripture declareth women and children must perish with their parents." 31)

from the website, "International Brotherhood Days"
http://www.brotherhooddays.com

PILGRIMS, PURITANS, CHRISTIANS, COLONISTS:


For many in mainstream America, the Pilgrim experience at Plymouth, the abandoned Native village of Pautuxet, marks a beginning. But for others, it marks the beginning of an end. As a rule, the Pilgrims were more scrupulous in dealing with their Native benefactors than those that followed, yet they did not shy from cheating, and swindling their hosts. The Pilgrims, as well as those that followed, engaged in grave robbing, 75). and used deadly force when it suited their needs, irrespective of the tenets and teachings of the Holy Scriptures. The Pilgrims quickly became absorbed into, and became part of, the greater monolith of European colonialism that crushed, exterminated, and exiled the First People of New England.


In 1636, eager to appropriate land belonging to the Pequot people, an alliance was formed with the Narragansett People. Surrounding a Peqout village on the site of present day Mystic, Connecticut, this force promptly set fire to the village and put to the sword all those that attempted escape. In an hours time seven were taken captive, seven escaped and between 600 to 700 lay dead. 31). 77).

William Bradford described the slaughter in these words, "It was a fearful sight to see them thus frying in the fire, and the streams of blood quenching the same, and horrible was the stink and stench thereof; but the victory seemed a sweet sacrifice and they gave praise thereof to God." 1)

The Narragansetts were mortified at the slaughter and pleaded in vain to Captain John Underhill, "It is naught, it is naught, because it is too furious and slays too many men." 1) The humanitarian concerns of the Narragansetts were rebuked. And in their witnessing the slaughter of the Pequot, the Narragansetts saw a portent and vision of what would befall their people in a few short years at the hands of the rapidly expanding colonies.

Underhill would later justify the killing of women and children by quoting the Holy Bible, "Sometimes the Scripture declareth women and children must perish with their parents." 31)

It was not enough to merely slaughter the Pequot people . Hoping to wipe their memory from history, laws were passed making it a crime to even utter the word Pequot. These efforts to shape history have only been partially successful. There are those that remember and are aware.

On December 19th 1675, six days before the celebration of Christmas, an armed force was lead into battle against the once friendly Wampanoag people, at the place that was to become known as, "The Great Swamp Massacre."

The Wampanoags, .were no longer willing to yield land to the rapidly growing colonies. This transgression would be dealt with forcefully. In the early morning hours this army attacked a sleeping village of mostly women, children, and old people. Setting fire to the village homes, and burning the Wampanoag people to death. Over 2000 Wampanoag People were slaughtered at this place.

One Christian soldier, sickened by the stench of burning flesh and horrified by the screams of the dying,, asked of his commander, "Is burning alive, men, women, and children, consistent with the benevolent principles of the Gospel?" 12).

Increase Mather rejoiced in his writing, that when survivors of this massacre "....came to see the ashes of their friends, mingled with the ashes of their fort.... where the English had been doing a good day's work, they Howl'd, they Roar'd, they Stamp'd, they tore their hair,.... and were the pictures of so many Devils in Desperation." 31)

The leader of the Wampanoag, Metacomet, a man the colonists called King Phillip, was killed shortly afterward. The body of Metacomet was drawn and quartered. Metacomet's severed head, was impaled on a iron spike which was driven into the ramparts of a bridge. This ghastly trophy remained upon the bridge for the next twenty years, a warning to those that might oppose the will and wishes of the Colonists. 12)

Those Wampanoag, unfortunate to be captured alive, were placed on a slave ship bound for the Bahama's and sold into slavery, yielding a handsome profit for the colonies. Metacomet's wife and children were among those sent into slavery. They were never to see their homeland again.

Many rationalize the wars between the colonists and their Native neighbors as conflicts that resulted from two cultures that did not understand one another. This thinking is often stated along with the idea that if the Native People would have just adapted to the "superior" culture of the European people then all conflict would have been mitigated. Examination of the "Blue Laws," refutes this thinking.

The "Blue Laws" were designed not to "elevate" the Native People to the European concept of civilization but rather to reduce Native People to a level less than human. Among the various "Blue Laws" were statutes whose intent was to reduce social association of White and Native People.

Many within colonial communities, found the Native way of life more desirable than that of their own. These "converts" lived with and adopted the dress and life-ways of their Native neighbors. To eliminate this threat from within, the "Blue Laws" forbade the wearing of Native dress, they forbade the practice of Native spiritual belief by both White AND Native Peoples, it was forbidden to wear ones hair long in the fashion of the Native People. Those that were convicted of violating these laws could expect the death penalty. 31) 1)

But perhaps most telling of all, in part as a result of the legacy of the "Blue Laws", the Massachusetts legislature in 1789 passed a law that forbade the teaching of reading and writing to the Native People. Violators of this law were also subject to the penalty of death. 1)

Today America recoils in horror as it examines the religious extremism and intolerance of the Taliban legacy in Afghanistan. But we forget that we once had a Taliban in America, they were called Pilgrims, Puritans, and Colonists, and we honor and feast their memory each year at the holiday of Thanksgiving.

It is an ironic facet of the American Myth that the Pilgrims and Puritans are popularly held forth as an example of a people setting out in search of religious tolerance and cultural freedom. In truth these Europeans set out for a place were they would ultimately enforce their own version of religious, cultural and political correctness upon others.

While there was a degree of cultural misunderstanding between the colonists and their Native benefactors, the understanding that did exist was far more complete than many would have us believe. But one conclusion is inescapable. The colonists understood that Native People stood in the way of their appropriation of land needed for expansion of the growing colonies. The Pilgrims, the Puritans, and their compatriots, like the other European people that followed them to America, would use any excuse, any method conceivable to take the land they desired.

http://www.brotherhooddays.com/HEROES.html#The Pilgrims

mike kohr

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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:14 PM
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4. I'm of mixed opinion
On one hand, I don't see it as being any different, really, from any other game depicting a period war. How many World War 2 games are there? hell, people LARP the Civil War every damn year.

On the other hand, I can definitely see how it could turn into a game of "settler vs. Savage" - I don't know enough about the game to make a judgment call there.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:55 PM
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5. This actually sounds like a fun game.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:39 AM
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6. Curt Schilling
a republican piece of greedy shit.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:49 AM
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7. If either the game, or the controversy raises awareness of native genocide
I would say it is a WIN/WIN
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JoeyTrib Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:20 AM
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8. I would totally be the Indians
Then I could change history, well for five minutes. Have like the Indians whip everyone's ass.
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