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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:46 PM
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What is with the Republicans' obsession
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 08:46 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
with "going back to the drawing board" or "starting over with a clean sheet of paper"?

:wtf:

Like with HCR, financial reform was being carefully negotiated between Republicans and Democrats alike to produce a final BIPARTISAN bill and now the Republicans seem to be backing out of negotiations on financial reform, stomping their feet, and declaring that we need to "go back to the drawing board". If all the Republicans want (as they claim) is for some *reasonable* changes to be made to the bill so that they can support it (which they never will), then WHY do we need to START ALL OVER??? Does this line poll well for them or something? Most people don't get to "go back to the drawing board" whenever changes need to be made to something. Does Congress need to "start all over" every time somebody wants something changed/tweaked now????

:wtf:

The Republicans have turned Congress into a freaking joke with their constant sideshow antics.
:banghead:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:48 PM
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1. Because blank paper is the only thing most of them can understand.
Anything with words or numbers really bends their minds.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:49 PM
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2. It's dressing up obstructionism
Saying "let's go back to the drawing board" makes it look like they actually want to do something, but they have no intention of doing anything.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:52 PM
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3. Solid achievements by a democratic Congress scare them silly . . .
Which is not to say that they aren't silly all the time anyway.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:58 PM
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4. The other excuse they use is the legislation is moving too fast
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:59 PM
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5. Could We Start Again Please?
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:03 PM
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6. Simple delay tactics.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:04 PM
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7. They want no government. They will accept nothing that is 'liberal'. That is why
every bit of legislation (proposed or current) has to be wiped out.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:04 PM
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8. do over, do over...just another way to stall, delay, obfuscate
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:07 PM
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9. Because a blank sheet of paper is white. The longer they stare
at a white sheet of paper the longer they don't have to look at anything black.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:12 PM
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10. They're the gatekeepers of pro-corporate America
... and the status quo at minimum. They've got theirs so who cares if others are suffering? Too bad, right? Should've been born into a family with lots of connections and if you weren't, tough.

Taxpayers are sheep for their corporate benefactors. In turn, they get a lot of moolah for their campaign coffers to keep the status quo going. They're simply in government to pass the buck - literally and figuratively - and corporate media is there to make sure this doesn't change.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:16 PM
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11. I do not recall a bill backed by Republicans that reformed anything
related to the economy. Reform means to add controls and this is not what Republicans want. How are you going to cheat people if you have any reform.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:33 PM
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12. They want the 'clean sheet of paper' to be a nullification of the past 2 elections
They want a do-over because they lost.

I truly believe it boils down to that.

But, perhaps they are reaching the 'negotiation' stage of the five stages of grief? The rank and file wingers are stuck in the anger stage.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:51 PM
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13. Four-year-olds often want a do-over
No difference at all, really.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:57 PM
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14. When they wanted to do HCR in increments
I had the idea of a political cartoon in which the Democrats and Republicans submitted the idea to Solomon. This is the roughidea I had, but I never got it any farther than this:



Solomon says: We'll cut the legislative baby into increments

Republican: Go for it

Dem: But that will kill the entire measure!

In the final, the one pleading was going to be the dem.

at the bottom I was going to have two Israelite gaurds dragging the elephant away
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:05 PM
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15. their brain has a cache the size of a floppy disk - single density

they can't handle too much without becoming useless and needing a reformat

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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:22 AM
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16. Does this play well with the public?
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 10:26 AM by Proud Liberal Dem
The Dems should be ridiculing the Repubs mercilessly about their obsession with "starting over" and I certainly hope their ad-makers are taking note for the upcoming midterms. I can't believe that these kind of tactics make the Repubs look more attractive to the average voter and the oh-so-cherished "independents". This is the kind of BS that we're apparently going to have to deal with for as long as there are Republicans in Congress? We definitely need to devise some kind of comeback/long-term strategy for this.
What really kills me is that it seems like there are NO *sane* Republicans left to work with. You see flashes of clarity from people like Snowe, Collins, Grassley, Lugar, Graham, Corker, et. al but before you know it, they get whipped right back into supporting the party (hard-)line preventing anything from moving forward. The Republicans just can't put ANYTHING above party anymore- just to see President Obama and the Democrats fail. They've really become more like a cult than a political party. How/why will Dems get punished for doing nothing (or not getting as much done) when having to deal with antics like these on a daily basis now?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:24 AM
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17. "Starting over" = no accomplishments for Democrats.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:42 AM
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18. Legislating is far more about "winning" or
"losing" than about the actual content now.

The GOP would rather harm the country than have the Democratic party pass legislation (and "win").

The crazy (carrying guns at political rallies) is getting unbelievably out of hand and unbelievably allowed.

Imagine the response by authorities, if one came to an anti-war or anti-free trade/globalization or pro-gay/women/minority rights demonstration armed.

Ironic, as the GOP fights policy content in legislation that has tended to be to the right of Nixon and to favor vested interests over the general public good.

Unfortunate in that the GOP clowns have some success and are media supported in general.

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:44 AM
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19. It's a delaying tactic
IF they go back to a clean sheet pof paper, no bill will come up for a vote prior to the election.
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