So McVEIGH was - BULLIED - and that's why he did his wingnut thang?!1

[UTUSN]

I'm hearing that he was persecuted by "jocks" who were "bullies." Then, that his remedy in joining the Army was to be a nerdy, extra-COMPENSATING type.

[Initech]

1. As someone who was bullied, I definitely call bullshit on this talking point.

[WeDidIt]

2. HE became the biggest bully of them all

He bullied little babies to death.

[MadMaddie]

3. They are saying he killed two Iraqi soldiars with one bullet

and apparantly he was a legend in his unit. He became ashamed of himself.

He tried out for the Special Forces and got cut. The final insult...He got blisters on both feet and he was tuckered out......he quit.

[LostInAnomie]

4. A lot of people use being bullied as an excuse for everything.

[cynatnite]

6. Some do...not all unfortunately...

Bullying can be very traumatic for some people.

[cynatnite]

5. They are painting a portrait of what drove him to do what he did...

which was a combination of factors. One of those was PTSD.

These were the kinds of warning signs that came out of Napolitano's office that the RW went batshit crazy about.

[UTUSN]

7. I'm missing something: His war/combat record/experience. In the Gulf War. n/t

[bullwinkle428]

8. So was I - somehow, I decided I wasn't going to gain my revenge

by slaughtering hundreds of innocent fellow citizens, many of them children.

[MrScorpio]

9. We're getting an interesting picture here:

- Broken home

- Constantly bullied in school

- Unable to relate to others, especially people who were unlike himself

- Driven by conspiracy theories

- Attracted to violence

- Constantly angry

- Manipulative

- Conflicted about his own participation in the US government

- He suffered a nervous breakdown

And that's just the first hour

[cynatnite]

10. The man was very intelligent, too. nt

[rocktivity]

14. Most psychopaths are very intelligent

Which is why they can be so hard to catch.

Heaven knows how long it would have taken to catch McVeigh if the license plate hadn't fallen off the getaway car.

[cynatnite]

16. I thought they said he didn't put a plate on the car in the first place. n/t

[rocktivity]

18. I doubt that they were able to drive that far with no plates

unless their intent was to be stopped BEFORE they reached Oklahoma.

The lies you tell yourself are always the worst.

:(
rocktivity

[Warpy]

17. He was emotionally shut down, completely so

That's what struck me about this whole thing.

It's really a shame psychologists didn't have a few years to pick him apart.

[UTUSN]

11. I'm thinking, a young generation has never heard this. n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

12. Hmmmmm

[uppityperson]

13. So wingnuts worship this mentally ill man?

[spanone]

15. mcveigh, defective unit

you have to be mentally ill to do what this person did.

[warrior1]

19. I watched the show

I found that he was also narcissistic and vain. It really matter to him what other people thought about him. For the record, he was a cold blooded killer.

[Johonny]

20. well that's what HE claims in HIS tapes to DEFEND himself

but I don't have to trust his word on it :)

[Winterblues]

21. As someone that has gone through intensive Combat I think I understand

I was young and naive and believed in my country. It was because of my stint in the military and got to witness first hand the cruelty and brutality of the American combat soldier, and the LIES from our Government that I lost virtually all respect for the US government.In fact for quite some time I also held a simmering hatred for authority. I have gotten over it pretty much after over forty years, but there are times that I remember things.. Horrible things..