New documents link Kissinger, Bush senior to Letelier assassination

[Hannah Bell]

Documents released last week by the National Security Archive... provide new details on the role of top US officials in facilitating the assassination of former Chilean foreign minister Orlando Letelier. These documents add to the overwhelming case for the prosecution of then-secretary of state Henry Kissinger, then-CIA director George H. W. Bush and other top officials for their role in these and other murders...

For the past three decades, despite mounting evidence to the contrary, Kissinger and Bush have maintained that the US government had no responsibility for the assassination of Letelier. The initial story — backed by selective leaks to friendly publications like the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Newsweek — was that Letelier had probably been killed by “leftist extremists,” or else by “rogue” Chilean operatives acting independently of the Pinochet regime. In the 1990s, however, with the end of the Chilean junta, some evidence of its past crimes began to emerge...

The documents released on April 10 by the National Security Archive relate to Kissinger’s personal role in the last stages of the preparation of the assassination of Letelier...

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/apr2010/lete-a20.shtml

[truedelphi]

1. Thank you for posting this.

The Letelier assassination has been of great interest to me.

[Hannah Bell]

2. me too. it's my opinion that "operation condor" was just the latin american arm of a

global push-back on labor & the left, roughly defined, & it was coordinated at the top.

e.g. ties between that operation, cointelpro, italy's "strategy of tension," etc.

[deutsey]

3. Charles Horman and Frank Teruggi were American victims of the coup

US Government documents at the links below show that "US intelligence may have played an unfortunate part" in Horman's death, while Teruggi may have been under surveillance while still in the US in '71-'72 and this info may have been given to Chilean officials in '73.

http://www.namebase.org/foia/ch04.html

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB33/index.html

[no_hypocrisy]

4. I remember them in the movie, "Missing".

[mmonk]

5. I do too.

I remember going to see it as if it were yesterday.

[Judi Lynn]

29. I read Charles Horman contributed articles to "The Nation" magazine

while he was living in Chile.

It's a BITTER shame U.S. Americans have been blocked by our own corporate media from learning about these atrocities until so many years later. They have been lying to us for ages, and we are even expected not only to "trust" them, but to financially support them for their crimes against us.

http://charleshormantruth.org.nyud.net:8090/horman-c.jpg http://www.submergingmarkets.com.nyud.net:8090/photos/uncategorized/charles_horman_and_joyce_1971.jpg

Young Charles Horman, and Charles with his wife, Joyce.

http://www.amigas.ca.nyud.net:8090/images/horman2.jpg http://www.rodelu.net.nyud.net:8090/lecchini/images/lecch03a.jpg

[malaise]

6. Duh!

That war criminal should have been in prison decades ago.

[spanone]

7. it will take a world court. no american administration will go after another. never..sadly

[truedelphi]

10. Especially since Kissinger somehow got a position inside the Obama Administration.

I forget what K's official title is - but he handled much of the interaction between Russia and the USA recently. For whatever reason, he had priority over Ms Clinton.

[blm]

11. That whatever reason is that Clintons have been a crucial part of Poppy Bush/Kissinger's

fascist goals throughout the years, and I highly doubt either of them have changed their deference towards Poppy and Kissinger just because she is SUPPOSED to be working for Obama.

Kissinger and Poppy and the rest of their cronies should have been jailed for the rest of their lives over BCCI and Iraqgate.

[truedelphi]

12. Instead, Poppy and Bill set up charities all over

The planet, wherever it is that the poorest of the poor reside.

Keep sending them those tax free charitable contributions, ya hear!

[blm]

13. sometimes I think the REAL Bill is the one who demonstrates compassion so easily....and I guess

he may even regret how he threw in with Poppy Bush back in the 80s.

[karynnj]

17. He did not have an official role

He was part of a large group of outside consultants who visited Russia in 2009. There was a comment by the current national security aide speaking of his predecessors as a chain of people in that position. There were some here who took it literally.

[flyarm]

35. you don't stand up in front of Germans or any foreign group and NOT MEAN THINGS LITERALLY!

OR IN FRONT OF THE FOREIGN PRESS CORP..

are you really that naive??????

Especially ....a " Security Policy Conference " !!!!!!!!!

and have it reported on by the CFR!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Remarks by National Security Adviser Jones at 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy

Published February 8, 2009




Speaker: James L. Jones


U.S. National Security Adviser Jones ( edit to add: new advisor hired by Obama!!!!) gave these remarks at the 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy at the Hotel Bayerischer Hof on

February 8, 2009.





"Thank you for that wonderful tribute to Henry Kissinger yesterday. Congratulations. As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through General Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today.




Source: http://www.cfr.org/publication/18515/remar ... ...



get real!!!!!!!!!

[karynnj]

37. Everyone in that audience knew that those were the people who preceded

him in the job. Do you really think that all former NSC advisor are officials emeritus? That Sandy Berger was still active in GWB's administration? This was a sophisticated joke said at a conference where the reference would be understood.

you are the one who needs to "get real" and remove the tinfoil hat.

[Hannah Bell]

38. baloney. personal attack on the poster also noted.

"tinfoil hat" = standard way to dismiss criticism as personal craziness.

[karynnj]

39. I note you did not note that poster's personal attack on me

in her post. Tinfoil hat means believing in the type of conspiracy theories that were in her post.

[Hannah Bell]

41. in the exchange i read, there was no personal attack on you.

"tinfoil hat" means "you're a nut," period.

it's a personal attack of a particularly insidious kind. labeling someone mentally ill = they have no capacity & can be completely disregarded.

it's always been a favorite of tyrannies.

& yesterday's tin-foil = tomorrow's confirmed truth. as i've lived long enough to see many times.

[karynnj]

42. "naive" is an insult as well - particularly as I am at least as

informed and capable of understanding what was said as she was. Given her response, I responded in kind - returning her lack of respect.

I have never referred to anyone as mentally ill and would not. Believing in conspiracy theories is not a syndrome of mental illness. The fact that you end up stating that yesterday's tin foil is tomorrow's confirmed truth indicates you understand completely what is meant by "tinfoil". Her comments indicate that she believes there is a line of command from Jones to Berger (Clinton's NSA) to Scrowcroft (GWHB's NSA) all the way up to Kissinger(Nixon's NSA). She posts things like this constantly in multiple font sizes and colors. This is connecting dots that are not necessarily connected. In addition, her intent through most of this is the same - to attack the President.


She also posted many tinfoil posts on Edwards being pushed out - when in fact, he was pushed out for one reason - failure to get enough votes.

[Hannah Bell]

43. "tinfoil" = nutty = mentally ill. the origin of "tinfoil" = people who put things on themselves

to prevent themselves from being attacked by mind-control rays from the planet Zog.

that's a diagnosis of clinical paranoia if you tell it to a psychiatrist.

whereas if you express the opinion that edwards was set up to be pushed out, it's not.

personally, i think it's an overreach to assume her motivation is to attack the president, & just dumb to get irate over someone's font choices.

[karynnj]

45. I did not get "irate" over her font choices

The fact is that "tinfoil" has been used in a far broader way than anything related to the planet Zog. The idea that both parties are the same, but with different facades shown to the public - with things being run by the same group of elite people regardless who wins is tin foil.

If you assign ulterior motives and lurking silent forces behind Edwards pulling out - ignoring the obvious - he was polling under 10% in all the superTuesday states and would have had to go far into debt to advertise everywhere there was an election is verging on tinfoil.

Her posts ever since it became clear that Obama was likely to win the nomination and Presidency have been entirely negative about him.

[flyarm]

36. the hell he didn't!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4530042/Cold-warrior-Henry-Kissinger-woos-Russia-for-Barack-Obama.html

Cold warrior Henry Kissinger woos Russia for Barack Obama
Henry Kissinger, the pioneer of Cold War detente during the Nixon era, has made a return to frontline politics after President Barack Obama reportedly sent him to Moscow to win backing from Vladimir Putin's government for a nuclear disarmament initiative.

By Adrian Blomfield, Moscow Correspondent
Published: 11:45PM GMT 05 Feb 2009

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Kissinger, Baker Visit Moscow as Obama Resets Ties (Update2)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aMiQ11h183F4&refer=us


By Lucian Kim

March 18 (Bloomberg) -- Henry Kissinger and James Baker, two former U.S. secretaries of state, will fly to Moscow for talks with Russian officials after President Barack Obama pledged to “reset” relations with Russia.

Kissinger, who met with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in December, is scheduled to return later this week, according to the U.S. Embassy in Moscow. Baker, traveling separately, will hold talks with American investors and address a conference on developing Caspian Sea energy resources.

“These guys are building the bridge from the real diplomacy of the Bush Sr. administration to Obama,” said Nina Khrushcheva, an international affairs professor at the New School in New York. “Diplomatically inclined Republicans can make a better opening line because they come from successful relations in the past.”

Obama, a Democrat, is seeking to strengthen ties to Russia and win Kremlin support for his policies on Afghanistan, Iran and nuclear arms reduction. Vice President Joe Biden said in February it was time to “reset” relations after they reached a post-Cold War low under former President George W. Bush.

Kissinger, 85, is among a group of U.S. “wise men,” including former Secretary of State George Shultz, 88, ex-Defense Secretary William Perry, 81, and former Senator Sam Nunn, 70, who will see Medvedev on March 20, the Kommersant newspaper reported today. They will also meet with Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov, former Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov and ex-Chief of General Staff Yury Baluyevsky, Kommersant said.

London Meeting

Obama, who is expected to meet Medvedev for the first time in London next month, may visit Russia in July, the Moscow-based newspaper said, citing unidentified Russian government officials. The Kremlin press service declined to comment on the report.

Kissinger, Shultz, Perry and Nunn have co-authored opinion pieces in the Wall Street Journal calling for the reduction and eventual elimination of nuclear weapons. Perry has slammed Senator John McCain’s suggestion that Russia be kicked out of the Group of Eight industrial nations.

Baker, 78, served as secretary of state when the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, heralding the disintegration of the Soviet Union two years later. He isn’t traveling in an official capacity and the timing is “purely coincidental” with Kissinger’s visit, his assistant John Williams said in an e-mail.

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The above story was posted on the HOOVER INSTITUTION STANFORD UNIV web site..


http://ask.stanford.edu/search?q=Kissinger%2C+Baker+Visit+Moscow+as+Obama+Resets+Ties+&sitesearch=&btnG=GO&site=hoover-institution&client=hoover&proxystylesheet=hoover&output=xml_no_dtd



These bastards just count on no one paying attention!!..then they go into smear attacks on people that do pay attention!! Where have we seen that before????????? wake me from this nightmare!! I fear I am stuck in the movie Groundhog day........

[truedelphi]

44. Thank you for responding with proof that

My initial remark was not in the least tin foil, or whatever.

Newspapers on both sides of the pond made note of Kissinger's involvement with the Russian diplomacy efforts. Christian Science Monitor has had more than one article on this matter.

Not everyone is happy about Kissinger's remarks that we should team up with Russia with regards to our missile outlays in terms of perhaps needing to take on Iran. Especially not when considering how Russia is not all that opposed to helping Iran when it suits them (And since Iran has a lot more oil to offer Russia than we do, suit them it might.)

After all, Kissinger is the one who stood with Nixon for the duration of the long Vietnam War years, as that sinister duo repeatedly told us that their policies would bring peace to both nations if only we would elect Nixon in the 1968 election.

[amborin]

21. didn't Kissinger mentor Geithner?

[truedelphi]

24. See flyarm's wondrous post, number 15.

Flyarm lays it all out.

[nashville_brook]

8. well deserved kick

and rec.

[robdogbucky]

9. Read this book

if you want the insider's view of what happened with the assassination of Letelier.

Labyrinth: How a Stubborn Prosecutor Penetrated a Shadowland of Covert Operations on Three Continents to Find the Assassins of Orlando Letelier
http://www.amazon.com/Labyrinth-Prosecutor-Penetrated-Shadowland-Operations/dp/0670424927/ref=cm_cr_pr_orig_subj


I read it many years ago, but most folks have not heard of it. Gene Propper, the author, was the chief prosecutor, assigned the case of the assassination of Letlier in the US, with backing by Kissinger, CIA, usual suspects.

He describes how his investigative efforts were thwarted by TPTB to ensure the proper outcome for their strategic interests in SA, especially in Chile, where a freely elected Marxist was not allowed to live. So much for self-determination and democratically elected officials.



Just my dos centavos


robdogbucky

[Octafish]

14. Glad to see someone is covering the story.

Of course, DU had them pegged, way back when.

FWIW: WSWS does a better job of telling the truth than all of the media horses pruning on ABCNNBCBSFixedNoiseNutworks combined.

[flyarm]

15. then ask yourself ..no me but yourself..why did Obama tap Kissinger to represent his new Admin? .

shortly after taking office..Obama asked Henry Kissinger..knick name.."The Butcher of Cambodia"..to represent his administration in Talks with Russia..

PLEASE DON'T BELIEVE ME..LOOK IT UP!

lets look as some serious connections here of Geithner , Kissinger and Obama...shall we..( edit to add: much of this i have posted many times in the past.)


TIMOTHY GEITHNER

Biography

Early life and education
Geithner was born in Brooklyn, New York.<2> He spent most of his childhood living outside the United States, including present-day Zimbabwe, Zambia, India and Thailand, where he completed high school at International School Bangkok.<3> He then attended Dartmouth College, graduating with a B.A. in government and Asian studies in 1983.<4> He earned an M.A. in international economics and East Asian studies from Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies in 1985.<4><5> He has studied Chinese<4> and Japanese.<6>

Geithner's paternal grandfather, Paul Herman Geithner (1902–1972), emigrated with his parents from the German town of Zeulenroda to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1908.<7> His father, Peter F. Geithner, is the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York.

During the early 1980s, Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation's microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by S. Ann Dunham-Soetoro, President Barack Obama's mother, and they met in person at least once.<8>

Timothy Geithner's mother, Deborah Moore Geithner, is a pianist and piano teacher in Larchmont, New York where his parents currently reside. Geithner's maternal grandfather, Charles F. Moore, was an adviser to President Dwight D. Eisenhower and served as a vice president of Ford Motor Company.

Early career

After completing his studies,

Geithner worked for Kissinger and Associates in Washington, D.C., for three years and then joined the International Affairs division of the U.S. Treasury Department in 1988.

He went on to serve as an attaché at the US Embassy in Tokyo. He was deputy assistant secretary for international monetary and financial policy (1995–1996), senior deputy assistant secretary for international affairs (1996-1997), assistant secretary for international affairs (1997–1998).<5>

He was Under Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs (1998–2001) under Treasury Secretaries Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers.<5> Summers was his mentor,<10><11> but other sources call him a Rubin protégé.<11><12><13>



In 2002 he left the Treasury to join the Council on Foreign Relations as a Senior Fellow in the International Economics department.<14> He was director of the Policy Development and Review Department (2001-2003) at the International Monetary Fund.<5>


In October 2003, he was named president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.<15> His salary in 2007 was $398,200.<16> Once at the New York Fed, he became Vice Chairman of the Federal Open Market Committee component. In 2006, he also became a member of the Washington-based financial advisory body, the Group of Thirty.<17>


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Timmy's dad :


Peter F. Geithner, is the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York. During the early 1980s,

Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation's microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by

S. Ann Dunham-Soetoro,

President Barack Obama's mother, and they met in person at least once



Geithner's maternal grandfather, Charles F. Moore, was an adviser to President Dwight D. Eisenhower and served as a vice president of Ford Motor Company.

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now this should alarm every true democrat on these boards!!!!!!!


and From an April post of mine here at DU: and please, don't believe me ...click the link..it was in the CFR publication!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Remarks by National Security Adviser Jones at 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy

Published February 8, 2009




Speaker: James L. Jones


U.S. National Security Adviser Jones ( edit to add: new advisor hired by Obama!!!!) gave these remarks at the 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy at the Hotel Bayerischer Hof on

February 8, 2009.





"Thank you for that wonderful tribute to Henry Kissinger yesterday. Congratulations. As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through General Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today.




Source: http://www.cfr.org/publication/18515/remar ... ...

[truedelphi]

16. Thank you verymuch for that post. I've had some of those pieces,

for a while, but some pieces were missing. With the extra pieces you just supplied, I can now make the puzzle easily.

The only part of your post that I disagree with is the small segment where you suggest that this post should alarm everyone here at DU.

Perhaps if we had the same members that we had two years go, there would be outrage,. But the newer members see this place as a place to exonerate everyone in this Administration, so I doubt that many here would be outraged at anyone but you or me, or any of the other more progressive Dems still on board.

[flyarm]

18. I guess the "NEW Democrats" don't give a flying f about that monster and murderer..and don't

give a rats ass or question how a democratic president could tie himself so closely with that MTF Kissinger!

But we "OLD " democrats can't even stand to hear the MTF'ers name! And anyone in the Vietnam era should be appalled beyond words!

He makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!

But what do we know ??

Oh yeah we know all about the murders (of the poor and innocent) of that fucker!

[laughingliberal]

26. +1000 nt

[givemebackmycountry]

19. “leftist extremists”

They did it.
It's never the right that had anything to do with anything.
It's always the “leftist extremists”

[flyarm]

20. how about ..it's both?????..

[tkmorris]

25. How about... wrong?

[flyarm]

33. You are right..it WAS wrong for a democratic president to have Kissinger represent his admin.

since most dems I have known and worked with side by side for 40 years..have despised Kissinger for the very murdering mtf he is!! That includes many elected dems I have worked with..

WHY WOULD ANY DEMOCRAT AFFILIATE WITH KISSINGER???????????

Do we have no credible Democratic diplomats or statesmen who have worked on on nuclear disarmament issues? Is that what you are saying????????

Could Obama not tapped Clinton or Carter?

Hell Clinton is loved world wide..hugely so!!

So if you have any bitches take it up with the guy who asked That murdering Fucker..Kissinger to represent his new Administration..by going to Russia

I sure as hell didn't ..nor would any Democrat I know have done that!

I would spit on the MTF before I would utter a word to Kissinger..and I would make sure I didn't miss! ( and I am not the spitting type of lady)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4530042/Cold-warrior-Henry-Kissinger-woos-Russia-for-Barack-Obama.html


Cold warrior Henry Kissinger woos Russia for Barack Obama
Henry Kissinger, the pioneer of Cold War detente during the Nixon era, has made a return to frontline politics after President Barack Obama reportedly sent him to Moscow to win backing from Vladimir Putin's government for a nuclear disarmament initiative.

By Adrian Blomfield, Moscow Correspondent
Published: 11:45PM GMT 05 Feb 2009

snip:

Shortly after Mr Kissinger's trip, Richard Lugar, a Republican senator from Indiana who has worked on nuclear disarmament issues for 30 years, also visited Moscow. George Schultz, another former secretary of state, has also played a vital role.



Sooooooooo are you telling me or us here at DU ..Obama had no diplomats or statesmen from the Democratic corp he could send to Russia to represent his administration other than Henry "the Butcher of Cambodia" Kissinger..or Richard Lugar, or George Schultz??????????


Were there no democrats working on nuclear disarmament issues???????? None?????????


Ya know..i used to teach my kids..when you want to know someone's character or know who they really are..just look who they surround themselves with!

Remember when Obama rebuked the Republicans at their own yearly meeting..on TV..big news at the time..less than 2 days later..Papa Bush..GH Bush and his son Jebbie..made a social Visit to the White House and Obama..am I the only one who finds the hypocracy of that suspicious? And just out of sync?? For someone who had just made damn fools of the repukes, for all the world to see..to get a "social" visit by GH BUSH??????and his sweet son Jebbie..my former governor..who every dem I know in my state despises..

[amborin]

22. K&R

[Overseas]

23. It felt like it to me at the time. //nt

[EFerrari]

27. "It's a small, small world."

[jotsy]

28. Awesome discussion folks, tyvm.

[leveymg]

30. The good times just keep rolling along.

Nothing ever changes at the top.

IMHO: One of the earliest and best works on the 9/11/73 coup and the Letelier/Moffitt assassinations is Donald Freed's "Death in Washington: The Murder of Orlando Letelier" (1980). Also, see, "The Trial of Henry Kissinger" by someone who will not be mentioned.

Glad to see this story is still alive, at least here at DU, my old friends. Thank you Hannah keeping this on the board, and FlyArm for his fabulous connect-the-dots with Tim Geithner/HK/BHO.

[G_j]

31. Democracy Now! interview w/ Peter Kornbluh of the National Security Archives.

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/4/12/new_docs_show_kissinger_rescinded_warning

New Docs Show Kissinger Rescinded Warning on Assassinations Days Before Letelier Bombing in DC

A newly declassified document offers new evidence that former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger canceled a warning against carrying out a secret program of international political assassinations just days before former Chilean ambassador Orlando Letelier and his American colleague, Ronni Moffitt, were killed in Washington, DC. We speak with Peter Kornbluh of the National Security Archives.

[Indi Guy]

32. Wasn't Kissinger first nominated to head the 9/11 comission...

...until he stepped down after being asked by a 9/11 widow if he had any financial relationships with the bin Ladens?

[flyarm]

34. yes indeed..and it was most of the 9/11 families that fought months and months to have him removed.

he had serious conflicts with Saudi Arabia..as his clients.

[Subdivisions]

40. Kick! n/t

[conscious evolution]

46. Kicking for exposure

One by one the dots are connecting.
Now,if only people would realize they are looking at a connect the dots picture.