Man Who Killed 16-Year-Old Girl Executed

[The Straight Story]

Man Who Killed 16-Year-Old Girl Executed

COLUMBUS, Ohio — A serial rapist convicted of strangling a 16-year-old girl was executed Tuesday, despite his concerns that he could be violently allergic to Ohio's lethal injection drug.

Darryl Durr failed to persuade federal courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, to delay his execution.

He was pronounced dead at 10:36 a.m.

Prison staffers say Durr was cooperative but appeared anxious before he execution. Ohio prisons spokeswoman Julie Walburn said he refused to eat or drink, saying he was fasting for religious reasons.

Durr, 46, said he was innocent and did not receive a fair trial.

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/onnnews/stories/2010/04/20/story-Durr_execution_scheduled.html?sid=102

[greencharlie]

1. yeah, Darryl...

well maybe you shouldn't have tortured, raped and killed the 16 yo girl...

you got off easy.

[NYC_SKP]

2. "violently allergic.. ...to the lethal injection drug"?

Well if that doesn't cast a light on the utter absurdity of the death penalty, I don't know what does.

:mad:

[Recursion]

3. What's absurd is that the swab the injection spot with antisceptic beforehand

Everybody's pretending they're not doing what they're doing.

[av8rdave]

4. I read an article here in Texas (trust me, we KNOW execution in this state) some time ago that said

the reason they swab the injection site is that, in the unlikely event (OK, make that an impossible event in Texas) that the execution is stayed at the last moment, there is no possibility of infection, which could lead to a "cruel and unusual" motion or even a lawsuit.

[geardaddy]

20. Exactly...

wouldn't want them to get an infection now, would we?

[paulsby]

41. i agree

they should swab it with anthrax

[Paladin]

90. You're Not Really In Law Enforcement, Are You? (n/t)

[paulsby]

91. i am, but i am also really into sarcasm

hth

[Llewlladdwr]

5. How does that make the death penalty absurd? NT

[NYC_SKP]

14. It may only seem absurd to those who oppose the death penalty to begin with.

Lumped together with the suicide watches they put on inmates leading up to the date and other measures to ensure the health and safety, it's absurd because the ultimate goal is to end that person's life.

It seems pointless, but I "get it".

We can't let the inmate take the power to kill away from the authorities.

That just wouldn't bring "closure" to anyone. :sarcasm:

[Llewlladdwr]

25. "Closure"? In irony quotes?

So I take it then that as far as you're concerned the victims of a crime (and/or their survivors) have no stake whatsoever in the outcome of a trial of the perpetrator of said crime?

[NYC_SKP]

28. If "closure" for family members and friends of the deceased depends upon another murder...

...then I submit that they aren't really getting closure and what they need may be some other form of emotional support or intervention.

That is what I mean by "irony quotes" with the word "closure".

I mock the few who use the term "closure" as justification for the death penalty.

I don't believe closure ever really comes to those who think it will come from more violence.

It indicates deeper emotional issues.

[Llewlladdwr]

29. But it's not a murder.

It's a legal execution. There's a huge difference.

And who are you to judge where another person finds closure? You're certainly entitled to your beliefs, but that's all they are. I know that if a family member of mine was raped and/or murdered that I'd want the perpetrator executed. I also believe that that's a normal and quite justifiable reaction. But you apparently believe that I should just get over my issues and go merrily along my way.

[NYC_SKP]

32. So it's not murder. Fine. It's killing.

Irrespective of our views about closure, the death penalty is not applied fairly and evidence is scant that it saves money, prevents crime, or even makes a majority of people feel more safe or whole when administered.

We will disagree.

Disagreement is common on this discussion board.

:thumbsup:

[Llewlladdwr]

35. Agreed.

Thank you for a civil conversation tho'!

[Maru Kitteh]

119. Death certificates of the executed list HOMICIDE as cause of death.

[muffin1]

86. +1,000,000,000,000. n/t

[MattBaggins]

79. There is no difference

[Llewlladdwr]

100. In your mind perhaps.

But according to the law and by definition there is.

[Arugula Latte]

107. Many innocent people have been put to death.

To me, if even one is put to death mistakenly, the death penalty is not worth it.

Prison for life, or until exonerating evidence releases the innocent, makes much more sense.

[NM_hemilover]

125. Read some of the other posts

As usual, the concern is more for the rapist than the victim or society.

I stand by my opnion, let em shit themselves just before a bullet behind the ear, a canvas sack and an unmarked hole in the ground.

[paulsby]

42. you beg the question

"another murder"
when in fact, state sanctioned killing after trial is by definition not murder

[NYC_SKP]

58. True, technically and by statute it is not murder. How about "Cold Blooded Killing".

One is tempted to use the word "murder", as in first degree murder, because many of the same features are there.

Actually, "cold blooded torture ending in cold blooded killing" would be a better descriptor.

:patriot:

[Llewlladdwr]

60. Torture?

Exactly how is the death penalty torture?

[NYC_SKP]

62. In a purely comparative sense... were this something done without state sanction.

It would be pure terrorism, kidnapping, threatening to kill with a countdown of days until the deed.

Of course it's not technically torture, just as it isn't murder or kidnapping either.

I feel very strongly about the few who end up there and are truly innocent, it has happened and will continue to happen.

[LanternWaste]

88. We have a lot of words that ultimately result in the same state...

You make an interesting point... we have a lot of words that ultimately result in the same state (murder vs. executioner, kidnapping vs. imprisonment, etc.). I'm compelled to wonder if the language used is simply to better assuage our own fears and doubts and/or create a moral antiseptic to remove the "smell".

Thanks for the new perspective.

[Llewlladdwr]

101. But the path to those states are quite different.

I'll agree that dead is dead. I'll even stipulate that murder and execution are both forms of homicide. Where I differ is the belief that both actions carry the same moral weight for the perpetrator. Those who participate in a legally sanctioned execution are in no way morally culpable for the resulting death.

[NM_hemilover]

7. poor widdle wapist.

All rapists, and all child molesters deserve nothing short of a bullet behind the ear. I can accept leathal injection because it's the agreed upon law, but I still wouln't cry if they were buried in a canvas sack, with the shit still in thier pants from just before the gunshot.

rapists/child molersters have plenty of people to argue for thier rights, but not me.



One dead rapist = one happy HemiLover.

[av8rdave]

9. I'm a huge believer in the justice system and the rights of the accused...

And I don't particularly like the death penalty, but I have to say I understand how you feel.

As for me, in this case, I have to admit that it doesn't feel at all bad to see that the wheels of justice finally run over this @$$hole.

[NM_hemilover]

12. I believe there are arguments to be made,

against the death penalty, and a lot of them make moral sense to me, with the exception of rapists and molesters. Some crimes are black and white with the penalty being life or death.

Like I said down thread a little, the most impotant thing about the case is that we are alive to discuss it, but the rapsit is not.

[ieoeja]

47. "we are alive ... rapist is not." Unless, of course, he wasn't the rapist.

The Innocence Project did their most thorough investigations of everyone sitting on death row in the project's home state of Illinois. Over 50% of the inmates were ultimately set free. Some for technicalities, but most because they were proven innocent.

Got that? The only state that has ever had each and every death row case reviewed by an independant agency ended up having the MAJORITY of those convictions overturned.

Living in Illinois, hearing about another capital conviction being overturned became background news for me. I am embarrassed to admit that I continued my support of the death penalty until it hit the magic 50% figure. Something about a majority being overturned sent a shock through my system and finally woke me up to the fact that we have been killing innocent people.

And that executing an innocent person isn't even a rare occurrence, but a common one.

[NM_hemilover]

53. The "innocence project" , says that this trash,

that is no longer a problem was innocent ? show me.

let me inform myself about the "innocence project", I'll be back

[NM_hemilover]

61. trying to find

where I said "we are alive...rapist or not".

But, I was not aware of the innocence project, and seems worthy of a little more following, so I can admit it's worth an amendment to my belief.

On it's face, the Innocence Project certainly seems to have the wrongfully convicted as their mission, and there are what looks like a few hundred cases on the home page of people wrongfully convicted, from all over the country. I don't know if that represents 50% of death penalty cases or not, but it's worth this amendment to my belief, I think this will also speed up the process and not let innocent nor guilty be subjected to wrongful imprisonment any longer than necessary.

How about a DNA test for every single rapist case, if the DNA, along with a pro ponderous of the evidence proves the rapist raped the victim, then straight out to the field with a canvas sack, a shovel and a 22 long. That should open up a large amount of time for the courts to examine rape cases where a DNA sample may not be possible. Proven to have raped... bullet, brain, bag. No more parole for rapists, no more tolerance of criminals at the expense of the public.

Fair comprimise ?

[ieoeja]

69. There is no evidence easier to fake than DNA evidence.

Police Officer: "Here's some water for you."

NM_hemilover: "Thanks." He drinks the proferred water.

Police Officer: "Let me throw this out. He walks out of the room, grabs the victims panties and uses them to wipe NM_hemilover's saliva off the rim of the water bottle.

Guilty!

:shrug:

[NM_hemilover]

76. Good Lord,

Watch enough TV, and use the exception instead of the rule as a guideline, and everybody will be out to get you.


I still think rapists and molesters deserve to die.

take care.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

94. I knew a cop who bragged about how he framed a burglar he "KNEW" was guilty.

He bragged how he gave the suspect a can of Pepsi during questioning and placed the can in an evidence bag after the interview.

In Chicago , we are still trying to jail a retired Chicago cop who, for twenty years, tortured the shit out of people on a regular basis to obtain confessions. Many of them death penalty cases.

Every cop I've known in REAL LIFE have confessed or bragged about some sort of perjury or testilying.

Yes, DNA can be planted.

[NM_hemilover]

120. I have no doubt you

know a cop, a lawyer, a politican, a teacher, a scientist, an sctivist, a fireman, a nurse, etc etc etc.........


Rapists should die, that's my opnion. If you haven't filed complaints on all the numerous crooked cops you know in "REAL LIFE" then you are no better than they are, and keeping your dirty little cop secrets doesn't make you more credible to me.

I appreciate the police, I respect the job they do, and am glad they do it. There is NO rehabilitation for someone who rapes, and regardless of your "REAL LIFE" cop experiences, there really ARE rapists in the world, and far fewer women would suffer being raped and thier lives fragmented if more rapists rotted in holes in the ground.

[ieoeja]

128. Turn them into whom?

When an off-duty police officer was caught on tape kicking and beating a tiny, female bartendar, the police rallied to his support.

When evidence proves a man wrongfully incarcerated, the cops go into a rage when the man is set loose.

I don't know if Hasan Ben Drinken knows any cops, but it's a damn good bet you do *not* know many cops. I lived a block from a cop shop before they moved it a few years back. The bar across the street from the old building is still a cop bar. I was there one night when an innocent man was let out of prison, and the cops were screaming bloody murder.

"But he didn't do it?"

"If he didn't do that, he sure as hell did something we just haven't caught him for!"

"Why do you say that?"

"What the fuck is your problem! Don't you have eyes! Look at the mother-fucking sonofabitch!"

Ignoring the fact they are determining criminality based on nothing more than the man's appearance, I replied, "he's been in prison the last twenty years. What do you expect him to look like? The cover of GQ?"

"He's just a no good, fucking nigger who'll kill and rape more women now that he is out."


Ah, yes! I had almost forgot that bit. He was on death row for killing and raping some woman. But the Innocence Project got to his case before he was executed.


So to whom do we report these guys? Obviously not one of the cops above, and there were quite a number of them, would give a shit.

Let me assure you, I have heard these and other cops bragging many times about abusing prisoners, planting evidence, etc. Most of those I've met carries a "throw away" to plant on someone they shoot if they can't find a gun so that there will be no "accidental shootings".

Even if I knew an honest, say, state prosecutor, it wouldn't do any good. Hal Badcop brags about planting some evidence at a crime scene. He doesn't provide a case number, name of the perp, or the date and time. Even with all that, all I have is inadmissable heresay. And every cop in the place will testify that I hate cops and am making it up.

And useful idiots like you will believe them.

No, Hassan ben Drinken and I are not as bad as them. You are. Because your gullibility shields them.


And then there is the other point. They just may be talking shit. Maybe none of these cops have ever done anything they claimed. Or maybe, after a few drinks, they exagerate the claims. Or start bragging about the real shit and end up making up something in an effort to do outdo one another.

[NYC_SKP]

16. Right, because every single person on death row is guilty. Mistakes are never made.

And everyone, every single person ever tried, gets the best defense, all equal.

:sarcasm:

[malaise]

21. +1

Shakes head at the love of death

[NM_hemilover]

24. Mistakes are always possible both ways, but you know that.

I feel the greater mistake is releasing hundredsif not THOUSANDS of rapists out on to society every year to rape again and again.

Let me try to be a little clearer, : If during the course of a trial, a person is convicted of rape and/or child molestation, I believe the penalty for that crime is death, sterile if we must, but death none the less.

We don't have to agree, but I'm glad the rapist is dead. Ding Dong the fucker's dead, makes a good song too.

[ieoeja]

48. And if we someday find he wasn't a rapist ... will you still be glad we killed him?

[MicaelS]

97. OK, say we abolish the DP...

In exchange, will you accept life without parole in solitary confinement, so there is no possibility of them EVER being a threat to ANYONE ever again?

[NM_hemilover]

122. I don't like that either, but better than parole.

A lifetime of solitary confinement would be my next best solution, however when they go clinically insane from years of solitary confinement, it will create an additional problem that will require additional solutions.

Dead is still my preference, but at the very least parole should never be granted for a frickin rapist.

But reading through some of the responces, many here are more interested in the intention of the rapist instead of the consequence of rapping someone.

I'll just have to have my own private cheering section every time a rapist is put to death.

take care

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[Llewlladdwr]

37. Says the guy who can't wait for our species to go extinct.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8182378

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[NYC Liberal]

49. If you start executing rapists and child molesters,

what motivation is there not to kill the only witness?

You may well only putting innocent people in danger with that stance.

[MattBaggins]

83. Watch reports of rapes plunge when girls won't

turn in their family members if they know they will be executed.

[NYC Liberal]

87. Yeah, that too. nt

[NM_hemilover]

121. well I certainly don't want to

put MORE people in danger by upsetting rapists, and their agenda.

What motivation does parole give to stop raping ?? Rapist who are caught rarely are caught during their first offense, and I believe the vast majority commit the same crime after a time out, in jail.

I don't abide by the idea that the penalty for a crime should be soft enough, so as not to anger the criminal.

take care, I still think they should die.

[NYC Liberal]

127. "What motivation does parole give to stop raping?"

Nobody claimed parole is meant as a deterrent. The solution is fewer paroles, not more executions.

Are we putting people in prison for what they might do in the future, or for what they have already done? The death penalty is certainly a deterrent...to that one person. By that logic, we should execute everyone convicted of a crime, if the purpose is to deter. Death penalty for burglars...they'll never rob again! :crazy:

But what about all the other people who haven't raped yet but who will? It does nothing to deter them.

Please tell me what motivation there is for the rapist NOT to kill the only witness if he is going to be executed either way?

[MattBaggins]

80. Which makes you no better than them

[NM_hemilover]

123. yes it does,

And a dead rapist won't affect my sleep pattern one bit. Like I said a minute ago, I'll just have to have my own little private celebration every time a rapist dies.

Don't be outraged the next time you read about a paroled rapist, rapping again again and again. the dead ones NEVER rape again.

take care

[NeedleCast]

13. Sort of like being violently allergic to nuclear explosion

Not going to matter much anyway.

[proteus_lives]

6. The air in Ohio just got a little cleaner.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

8. Never go to Wisconsin. The lack of death penalty there must make it positively filthy.

Or Maine, or Iowa, or Massachusetts, or Vermont...

All rotten, horrid places. Like that disgusting Europe. Except Belarus, they're the last bastion of morality and property.

They're not wholesome and clean like Saudi Arabia, Iran, China...

[NM_hemilover]

10. The only really important thing about this case,

Is that we are alive to discuss the rapist, but the rapist is not.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

11. So you're going to follow my advice and leave your state, which has just become horrendous?

Maybe some kindred soul in Arizona has a room to spare.

[NM_hemilover]

17. Arizona was FANTASTIC, just too damn hot though,

Went to school in Tempe and LOVED IT, just never got used to the heat enough to stay.

I do wish we still had the death penalty here in NM, and there are still some cases of filth that will still be subjected to it (hopefully). I'll be in favor of it when it comes back around the next time, as I always am.

Some people remove thier right to exist in society, by feeding off others. Most deserve a lifetime of misery behind bars, but not rapists and molesters. It's just to bad that so many more people will be raped, and/or molested by useless trash, that have convinced society that for whatever reason they "won't do it again" and are given the oppourtunity to rape again and again and again.

Dead rapists, rape no more.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

19. OK. Just stay away from those wishy-washy, latte-drinking, effete elitist criminal-loving states

which have little hope of ever seeing the error of their ways.

[NM_hemilover]

26. Your description Pinko, not mine. n/t

I just don't like rapists, I think they should die. You think what you want.

[arcadian]

34. What about somebody who date rapes?

Where both participants were drunk but where the the college student decides the next morning in a hungover daze that she was "raped" and she gets the best lawyer in the land and the courts side with her, but in reality it was just drunk sex and she wanted to keep her "good name". Should that young man be put to death?

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

55. Maybe he should be put to death

if the hypothetical young lady in question wakes up and discovers she's been murdered. Yes.

For causing a hungover daze, probably not.

[NM_hemilover]

66. I think you answered your own question in your question,

but

Drunk, fucked with second thoughts is not rape. You touch on a much more systemic problem with the court system though, and as always, the "what if" questions trumps all, and the public pays. Judicial outcome can certainly be exploited with cash, much if not EXACTLY like the political system. Some of those "public servants" deserve a bag a bullet and a hole also.


However, back to my opnion. I was directed to the innocent project a few posts up and offered a possible amendment to my belief after a quick scan of the website. DNA, and a pro ponderous of the evidence proves the accused rapist raped the victim ? Straight to the field with a canvas bag, a shovel and a 22 long.

There ARE rapists, they ARE parolled, they DO rape again, but not the dead ones. The overall theme I would like to convey, is that rapists and molesters deserve to die, and I'm glad when it happens.

Happy 4/20, it's a good day for a rapist to have died, it will be my first toast this afternoon.

[arcadian]

70. It's funny that you hate rapists yet

your quote on your profile is from a cartoon character where in rape is often joked about. Doesn't seem sincere.

[NM_hemilover]

72. please elaborate,

my rapist cartoon charecter.

[arcadian]

92. Qugamire from Family Guy

It's always a rape joke. But your cool with that yet hate rapists? Weird.

[NM_hemilover]

73. Rape is also often "joked"

about here on DU, referring to sending political criminals to prison for a little "treatment". You know you have seen it before in threads here before, you have been here long enough.

However that does not make "DU" less sincere does it ?

Can't convince someone of something they don't believe, believe what you want, I believe rapist deserve to die in what ever fashion so long as they are dead.

However in an alternate Universe, I find Family Guy the made up cartoon funny. But liking Family Guy does not make me racist, homophobe, pro rape, or any other conclusions about my personality that can be "drawn" (pun intended) from it.

[NM_hemilover]

77. What if....

while being raped at knife point, a woman suddenly discovers that rough sex turns her on, then, her husband discovers them and believes them only to be cheating because she is not struggling enough. THEN, to save her marriage, she accuses the "rapist" of rape, even though she had never experienced a climax like that "one". THEN, accusing of rape, in the courtroom, she professes her love for him, and recinds her previous charge of rape, THEN charges her "husband" with rape because she never really liked sex with him anyway....then who gets the kids, and will Rudolph's red fucking nose still lead the way for Santa ?

What if yourself crazy if you want, my belief is easy and simple. A man (most commonly) shoves his dick (most commonly) into a woman's oriface (most commonly) against her will = death penalty. I feel like I have to add (most commonly) in an attemt to give some lattitude to your clever "what if" senerios. There really ARE rapists who are guilty.

[RedstDem]

46. An eye for an eye

oh wait, you want all rapist dead, so in that case they should all be raped back, I think the guy was executed for his murder of the girl, more than his rape.
thats how my cracked mind works..

I don't believe in the death penalty, but i gotta admit, seeing Tim McVieh get it was kinda satisfying

[NM_hemilover]

71. I never said I wanted "rapists raped",

what I said was leave thier shit filled pants on, stuff em into a canvas sack with a bullet hole behind the ear, and into a hole they go. The shit filled pants would be from the realization that the next sound they heard would be the last. Where the hell did you get "rape them back from" ? No rape, just dead.

That is a pretty fair thing to say though, "All rapists dead" ...works for me, I don't really even care about the meathod, 22's are just really cheap, and 4 or 5 could be ringing around the rapist skull for less than the cost of a Starbucks standard coffee.

[proteus_lives]

64. Go ahead.

Weep and gnash your teeth over rapists and child molesters.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

67. Ain't doing either. But you know that already. -nt

[Bragi]

15. The death penalty demeans any society that uses it /nt

[Llewlladdwr]

27. In what way?

How does allowing society a mechanism whereby dangerous individuals are removed from our midst while also allowing for the satisfaction of normal human emotions (such as a desire for retribution) demean us?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

30. "while also allowing for the satisfaction of normal human emotions"

Aha.

[Llewlladdwr]

31. Aha? Aha what? NT

[Skittles]

84. aha because you're referring to revenge, not justice

[Llewlladdwr]

96. But revenge (i.e., restitution and/or retribution) are supposed to be a component of justice.

Otherwise what's the point of a justice system at all?

[Bragi]

40. Retribution (aka revenge) is itself a demeaning sentiment

Group murder is bestial. We should be true to our better nature. We need to protect society in a way that elevates our humanity rather than demeans it.

[Llewlladdwr]

44. Do you feel the same about a wrongful death lawsuit?

Or is a desire for compensation/restitution for the injury/death of a loved one okay if it only involves money? Would it be okay to ask for incarceration?

[Bragi]

65. Let me be clear on this...

I have no problem with restitution, including financial restitution; I have no problem with incarceration to protect society; I don't even have a problem with the idea of a life sentence without parole in special cases, ones where society needs to express particular horror and revulsion at a particular crime.

What I have a problem with is state sanctioned murder. I think that's degrading and dehumanizing to any society that allows it, for reasons expressed above.

[Llewlladdwr]

98. So what restitution is it appropriate to ask...

from someone who has raped, tortured and killed one of your loved ones? What could they possibly surrender short of their life that would be at all equal to what they took?

[Selatius]

104. That's up for a jury to decide, but it has to be unanimous consent.

Anyone on that jury who is opposed to putting the convicted to death will inevitably lead to a jury only agreeing to life in prison without parole. People's beliefs are in play here, not the victim's. That's the price of justice: Impartiality.

[Llewlladdwr]

108. Can you expand on this?

I'm not understanding your use of the word impartiality in this context. Thanks!

[Dreamer Tatum]

43. Yeah, I'd feel much more like Noel Coward if that guy wasn't executed

Crimes like his are what the DP is for. Good riddance.

[safeinOhio]

18. Glad you feel better, too bad it makes you less safe

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates

States Without the Death Penalty Fared Better Over Past Decade - In the past ten years, the number of executions in the U.S. has increased while the murder rate has declined. Some commentators have maintained that the murder rate has dropped because of the increase in executions (see, e.g., W. Tucker, "Yes, the Death Penalty Deters," Wall St. Journal, June 21, 2002). However, during this decade the murder rate in non-death penalty states has remained consistently lower than the rate in states with the death penalty.

When comparisons are made between states with the death penalty and states without, the majority of death penalty states show murder rates higher than non-death penalty states. The average of murder rates per 100,000 population in 1999 among death penalty states was 5.5, whereas the average of murder rates among non-death penalty states was only 3.6.
A look at neighboring death penalty and non-death penalty states show similar trends. Death penalty states usually have a higher murder rate than their neighboring non-death penalty states.


Then statistic mean nothing when you are talking revenge. Me, I'd take the death penalty any day over life in jail.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

22. The fix, man. Gotta. Have. The fix. *twitch*

[The Straight Story]

57. Hmmm, I did not say I felt better :) (nt)

[Dreamer Tatum]

23. But he said he was innocent! nt

[Shell Beau]

36. How does one know they are allergic? I have a feeling I am allergic

to lethal injection too! Seriously though, does it matter at that point?

[Orsino]

45. 16-Year-Old Girl Stubbornly Remains Dead n/t

[Ikonoklast]

50. Oh, well.

Guess we'll never know if he'll get a rash or not.

[struggle4progress]

51. On 31 January, or perhaps 1 February, 1988, Angel Vincent, age 16, disappeared;

at the time, her neighbor, Deborah Mullins, was then living with and "dating" Darryl Durr, who would have been about 24. The decomposed body was found three months later; another five or six months passed, at which time Durr was arrested for two rapes, to which he pleaded guilty, though he later denied involvement. Following the rape arrest (eight or nine months after the disappearance), Mullins told investigators in an interview that Durr had driven off with Vincent to get her cigarettes, had returned with her tied up in the car, indicated he intended to kill her, then had driven off again and returned without her. Given Vincent's history, her disappearance was treated as a child-runaway case

As a rule, it's "unattractive" people who land on death row: the poor, the marginally sane, and so on. The Darryl Durrs of the world don't naturally excite our sympathies. But the convictions are often obtained, as in this case, under very strange circumstances: if, for example, Mullins knew Durr intended to kill Vincent, why did she wait eight or nine months to tell that story? A five hundred dollar allowance, to mount a defense against such charges, is completely inadequate

References:
Execution of Darryl Durr for 1988 murder of teen on schedule today
By Joe Guillen, The Plain Dealer
April 20, 2010, 8:27AM
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/04/darryl_durr_scheduled_to_die_t.html

<pdf>
McGARRY LAW OFFICE
Kathleen McGarry ...
August􀀃6,􀀃2009􀀃
RE:􀀃􀀃Clemency􀀃for􀀃Darryl􀀃Durr􀀃
... 􀀃During􀀃a􀀃break􀀃in􀀃the􀀃trial􀀃proceedings,􀀃the􀀃judge􀀃stated􀀃that􀀃he􀀃““wanted􀀃to􀀃see􀀃Darryl’’s􀀃
nigger􀀃 ass􀀃 in􀀃 the􀀃 chair􀀃 for􀀃 messing􀀃 with􀀃 white􀀃 women”” ... http://freepress.org/images/columns/1820/Letter_requesting_Clemency_Support.pdf

[petronius]

93. I know it's only one story, but that account makes me really uncomfortable with this execution

It sounds as though the entire case rests on the story of the ex-girlfriend, and the victim's mother saying that Durr was obsessed with Angel.

His guilt may be likely, but I'm not seeing any 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in that tale...

[struggle4progress]

106. Dunno. I did the best I could with a quick online search. That's

what I know about the state's case as a result.

[petronius]

116. Just to clarify, I wasn't complaining - just commenting that that one article

doesn't fill me with an overwhelming certainty of the guy's guilt. I'm glad you took the time to put up the details...

[yawnmaster]

52. So, was he allergic to it or not?? eom

[KansasVoter]

54. How many IDIOTS here even know the number of people let off death row because of DNA.

[Shell Beau]

59. I often wonder how many innocent lives were taken before DNA.

[ScreamingMeemie]

68. +1

But that's not important right now...

[muffin1]

85. Thank you

for injecting some sanity into the conversation.

[Odin2005]

56. Good riddance!

[MrSlayer]

63. Good.

Serial rapist? Check. Murderer? Check. Justice Served? Check.

[apocalypsehow]

74. I am steadfastly against the DP, and would love to see it abolished everywhere. HOWEVER, as with so

many issues here on DU, the people on this thread with my same point of view make very poor advocates for abolishing it.

One can be vehemently against the DP without at the same time seeming to excuse the criminal acts of those who are sentenced to it - which I'm seeing a lot of in this thread. One can be against the DP without trying to make a martyr of those who, like Mr. Durr, commit the most horrific crimes and then are executed as a result of those crimes.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

82. I trust that I'm not included among those, is that so?

[MicaelS]

99. The problem with far too many of those against the DP...

Is they apparently care more about the rights of accused than the victim of the crime.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

103. Old canard is old.

[Dorian Gray]

75. It's sad that he was executed

It's sadder that he murdered a 16 year old girl.

It's laughable that an allergy to a lethal injection was used as a way to try and avoid lethal injection.

[Zipp]

95. I hope he suffered

just as his innocent victim did.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

105. Lethat injection executions are specifically designed NOT to cause suffering.

Do you think that's bad policy?

[Old Troop]

78. I used to be a death penalty supporter

then I got to watch executions in Saudi Arabia. A lot of them. Never once was a Saudi citizen executed; it was always Pakistanis, Palistinians and other third world people. Changed my mind. Put them in super max and never let them out.

[Doctor_J]

110. In IL 1/2 of the death row residents were INNOCENT

when George Ryan stopped CP. that to me is the only compelling argument against it, but it's a clincher, IMO

[flvegan]

81. So the rapist has his punishment ended. Hope everyone is happy.

He was 46. He had another 40 or so years of suffering that he's missed out on. What a shame.

[Naturyl]

89. Good riddance.

Off to hell.

[lukasahero]

102. "serial rapist"

I am steadfastly against the death penalty. That said, I wonder how many on this thread would be arguing so vehemently if Durr had 'simply' been convicted of killing someone without the rape charges involved? It looks like the main argument people have is that they're worried that the victim might have been drunk and really just changed her mind after a wayward college fling.

I haven't read too much into the specifics of this case but I did notice use of the word "serial" as the qualifier to "rapist". That doesn't indicate a drunken romp gone sour. I still don't rejoice at his demise but the people supporting him in this thread might want to consider their motivations in doing so.

[Doctor_J]

109. I remember a recent case where a condemned man OD'd

on contraband H, IIRC, about 3 days before they were going to kill him with a lethal injection. They of course revived him and then went through with the execution on schedule. If the death penalty goofy or what?

[divvy]

111. Isn't a "lethal injection" supposed to induce a violent reaction ?

I mean after all, that is the point of a lethal injection ....

[MajorChode]

112. The death penalty is no penalty at all

It gives guys like him and McVeigh a way out of most of their penance.

[Llewlladdwr]

113. What penance was this guy doing?

Penance is a voluntary, self-imposed punishment for a sinful act or wrongdoing. I seriously doubt Durr was sitting on Death Row voluntarily.

[MajorChode]

114. In a religious context perhaps

It's also a figure of speech which means payment for an immoral act.

[Llewlladdwr]

115. I've honestly never heard it used that way to decribe an imposed punishment.

Every use of the word penance I'm familiar with incorporates the concept of the penance being a voluntary action one takes in order to make restitution for some wrongdoing. However, YMMV.

[MajorChode]

117. That might be the most popular usage these days

However the word is a bit more inclusive than you might have expected, at least if you consider the word's origins. The words penitentiary and penance are derived from the same Latin base.

[NM_hemilover]

124. It give society a way out of a rapist existence,

more important than "penance" for raping someone.

[MajorChode]

126. Society loses with the death penalty

Keeping someone incarcerated for the rest of their life vs the death penalty offers zero benefit to society. Putting someone to death vs life imprisonment is more expensive which means society loses.

[old mark]

118. Please read other articles on this case. Mr. Durr' s supporters say he was not given a fair trial,

but he was arrested for this crime in 1988, and has had appeals and stays of execution up till 2009. He had jewelery and clothing that the 16 year old victim was wearing when she was abducted, raped and strangled with a chain. Her body was placed in an orange plastic traffic barrel in a park and she was assumed to have left home voluntarily till she was discovered 3 months after she was killed. Mr. Durr was being held for 2 other rapes when he was arrested for this rape and murder.

mark

[BlooInBloo]

129. That he's dead: I have no problem with. That The State kills its own citizens, big problem...

That so many people support The State killing its own citizens, I guess people really do deserve the government they get.