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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 04:23 PM
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BBC exposes past Moonie plot to infiltrate Britain with “sleepers”
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 04:42 PM by Cell Whitman
The deceit based Unification Church, a political movement in religious clothing that has spent more than anyone promoting far right, theocratic and homophobic politics in the USA, has once again had its rich history of deception, its use of lies and manipulation, exposed.

This time, in a short radio documentary, the BBC has revealed that in 1973 the UC deceptively recruited 120 Brits to fly to the USA for a "leadership" seminar. With the Moonies holding the return tickets, the trip turned into a horror in which the group hung together to make it back.

Back in 1973 few had any understanding of Moon's deceptive political front but the resilient Brits watched out for each other until all were safe. They also found UC documents that provided them with the answer to the question that had perplexed them since they arrived: What were the Moon organization’s plans for them?

From the BBC's Fly Me to the Rev. Moon (audio will only be available for a few days)
BBC
April 19, 2010
John Waite
<...>

Waite: Robbie Lowe, a fellow traveler on our voyage to Mr. Moon, lives now Cornwall where he runs this Roman Catholic retreat house as a retired clergyman and when dissent among the students hardened into something like a revolt, he was at its forefront.

Lowe: Well, we needed to organize to make sure the physical conditions improved. We were crammed eight to a dorm the size of a normal bedroom. There was no air-conditioning. It was the height of the New York summer and as I remember there were two portable lavatories. Now, 120 blokes into two lavatories doesn’t go.

We also needed to know what the game plan of this organization was and in that we were extremely fortunate in as much as we came into a huge set of documents which explained exactly what their plan was because none of us knew what the plan was. We didn’t know that it had to be 120 people. We didn’t know that they were looking to get these people into the cult and then infiltrate them back into English life and hope that they would rise to the top.

Waite: You mean like sleepers?

Lowe: Exactly!


Typically, the UC claims this was a mistake and was never done again. But the fact is, lying and the use of deception was par for the Moon course. (listen to Allen Tate Wood describe this in the audio) They may no longer fly 120 people to some far off location but deceiving people when they recruited was normal for them.

Listen to the whole thing and see a little bit of how untrustworthy the organization is that brought us the Washington Times.

Moon boasts about how he has used the WT to “influence America” and to gather intelligence for his organization. The Washington Times has been Moon’s effort to mold our society to his "messianic" vision of a nation under the influence of the most extreme right, empower the theocrats, to influence U.S. policy particularly when it comes to Asia/Korea, and PRIMARILY to serve as an intelligence gathering unit for his org and their friends and to recruit for the group.

The WT recruit for the group? Yes.

If you don’t really understand the purpose, the mission of the WT, you need to watch Michael Warder’s talk from the Cults and the Media panel which featured three conservative former editors of Moon’s media arms. Warder worked closely with Moon as the editor of Moon’s NY paper, the now defunct, New York Tribune/News World. (After the talks there is a Q&A in which Warder describes why he left the UC. He says Moon was a racist pushing Koreans as the master race and they wanted Warder to turn over his child to the organization to be raised.)

The whole Cult and the Media program is important to anyone who wants to understand what the WT is, how it screwed our nation and provided Moon with more than his money’s worth – but if you are short on time please do watch Mr. Warder at the 27:00 mark.

Link to "Cults and the Media"

and again Link to BBC radio documentary (will only be available for a few days)



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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 04:28 PM
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1. Falwell called them "stealth candidates"
and I think if you dig deeply enough into the religious right in the US, you will find Moon at its root.

I would especially love to see "The Family's" finances exposed completely.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:06 PM
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4. Yep....scratch a fundie and you'll often find a moonie underneath....
Bush/Moon alliance over the last 50 plus years knew how to trap and use the vulnerable seeking religious structure.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:01 PM
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5. how ya doing blm?
Moon's kids are blowing the cover to many of their lies now but there isn't any press how cares. They are admitting things which had they admitted and not LIED about the last 30 years, they wouldn't have been allowed to infest our potical system. NPR, the WP and Forbes have been putting out the Moonganda. One son has admitted they hide behind front group names.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:05 PM
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6. corpmedia will continue to protect Moon because he's been a huge part of BushInc for so long.
and corpmedia will protect BushInc as long as their corporate masters need. And that will be for a long, long time.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:09 PM
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7. warpy
you will find Moon at its root.

I could not agree more. He's the "true" savior of the new right. The one who led them out of the 40 year liberal wilderness.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 12:13 PM
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11. even here many think he's harmless...
yep...as harmless as Bush family.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 04:32 PM
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2. Ask me no questions and I’ll tell you lies!
Welcome to the age of Thug News Mooney!
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:02 PM
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3. Message from James Whelan, the first editor of the Washington Times
Absent Moon's billions in overseas cash, there would have been no Bush 43 presidency, no tea party, no unhinged right wing in America. Moon didn't choose Bush or physically start the Tea Partiers, Moon laid the groundwork for all of it. Back when Republicans were "conservatives" - before there was a Fox, before there was a Rush, Moon was there laying the groundwork for the right we see today. Moon gave the new right its spine, its "character."

Quoting James Whelan from the Cults and the Media panel.

"They (the Moonies) are subverting our political system. They're doing it through front organizations--most of them disguised--and through their funding of independent organizations--through the placement of volunteers in the inner sanctums of hard-pressed organizations. In every instance--in every instance--those who attend their conferences, those who accept their money or their volunteers, delude themselves that there is no loss of virtue because the Moonies have not proselytized. That misses the central, crucial point: the Moonies are a political movement in religious clothing. Moon seeks power, not the salvation of souls. To achieve that, he needs religious fanatics as his palace guard and shock troops. But more importantly, he needs secular conscripts--seduced by money, free trips, free services, seemingly endless bounty and booty--in order to give him respectability and, with it, that image of influence which translates as power."
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:13 PM
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8. K & R n/t
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:01 AM
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9. given their stated goals and propensity to deceive
makes you wonder why some, who are named to high governmental positions while "claiming" they left the movement, get all indignant when asked if they are still a follower.

Such as one staunch follower and main player in the Moon media/propaganda machine....Like this lady.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 11:54 AM
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10. one last boot for old time sake N/t.
:)
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