Guiliani: "I reduced welfare"

[Naturyl]

You certainly did, Rudy - but it's amazing to me that "reducing welfare" can be used as a *bragging point* in today's America. According to the dictionary and common sense, "welfare" means "faring well." It isn't supposed to be a dirty word. "Reducing welfare" ought to be immediately recognized for what it is - causing a reduction in quality of life.

What's next? Bragging about "reducing goodness" or "reducing compassion?" Anything to save taxpayers a dollar or two.

Vote for me, I cut the budget and reduced happiness by 23%!

[Atman]

1. Taking people OFF welfare isn't REDUCING it, Rudy...

You saved your city some money. But you didn't reduce shit. The people who needed help the most were simply shoved aside and left to rot. You must be so proud, Rudy!

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[madeline_con]

2. *I'm in no way defending the guy but...

he probably meant he reduced the number of those receiving welfare. Repugs love that crap.

Welcome, BTW! :hi:


speeling errors

[TahitiNut]

3. It just shows what a narrow, little 'world' these cretins make for themselves ...

... with no neighbors or acquaintances or relatives who aren't affluent and connected. They don't allow such people in their 'world' - it's a kind of pretend euthanasia.

[Sonicmedusa]

4. The Repuglican way

Killing them off through literal starvation, medical starvation , military serfdom, economic starvation, and lastly, NO HOPE.

[Naturyl]

5. From another thread...

I think it's appropriate here as well:

I believe in universal human rights. In my view, all human beings are morally entitled to the necessities of life (food, clothing, shelter, and medicine) regardless of employment status or any other consideration. To me, the view that some people are "undeserving" is "the most evil and immoral concept imaginable," as well as the cause of all injustices throughout history. No amount of self-centered posturing and moralizing can excuse the greater moral failure of those who would exclude any other person from access to basic human needs.

[JackBeck]

6. Can't wait for him to start bragging about all the police he put on our streets.

Oh, wait. That was CLINTON who created the initiative to put 100,000 police on our streets. Rudy just took credit for it in NYC.

[no_hypocrisy]

7. Let me tell you how I remember Rudy "reducing welfare" in NYC.

He hired Jason Turner from Wisconsin to run his welfare program. His/their idea of innovation was to make welfare conditional. If you were a single mother receiving welfare stipends and/or a Section 8 housing stipend, you no longer received these benefits because you were in need. Rather, you had to WORK a certain number of hours (documented of course) in order to CONTINUE receiving your benefits. And these jobs were usually jobs that were assigned to (union) civil servants (who were fired). So you had to work during the hours they assigned you, which sometimes cut into when you took courses for a skill in order to GET OFF WELFARE. And you lost money in the deal, because while you had to work, you had to find money to pay someone to watch your kids and the money you "earned" was not enough for this expense. The end result was you got less money and were likely to stay on welfare rather than progress to employment. Rudy took credit for this "reform" too.