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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 08:39 PM
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Relax Gringo
I'm here legally...

T-Shirt I bought here in Fort Worth that has potential...
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 08:42 PM
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1. excellent! I'd buy one
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 08:42 PM
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2. Wouldn't "gringo" be considered an ethnic slur? Why would
anyone wear anything like that?
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 08:43 PM
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3. I'm a gringo...btw
it's an in-your-face thing...
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 08:55 PM
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4. I'm a gringo also,but don't want anyone calling me that,anymore
than a black or Asian or Hispanic would want the old,familiar ethnic slurs tossed at them.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 08:58 PM
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6. You're a gringa
and "gringo" doesn't have the history of being used as part of a system of suppressing white people. IOW, it's just a lame slur whereas several of those other old, familiar slurs had power.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:05 PM
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8. Thanks for the gender correction-----and I still don't like it. I also
don't like being called a "thick mick" and that has nothing to do with racial suppression.

A slur is a slur is a slur.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:13 PM
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11. Actually, being called a "thick mick" has everything to do with suppression.
The Irish immigrants weren't considered "white" until they were so numerous and powerful that the slurs no longer reminded them of the repression. I was never allowed to use an Irish slur around my father because he was raised by the generation that still dealt with the prejudice against the Irish on a daily basis. The Irish Americans just don't need to worry about that anymore -- the words have no power.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:16 PM
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13. Of course they were considered white,just dumb,Catholic whites that
did nothing but breed.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:26 PM
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15. Nope. The racist in this country were hellbent in proving that the Irish were Iberina Negroes
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:31 PM
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17. They were the nutcases.---to most we were just dirty,uncouth whites.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 10:32 PM
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22. No, they were white but not considered white. Neither were Italians.
Those nationalities weren't good enough to be white (in part because of their "breeding" Catholic ways.)
Here's a good book on the subject:
http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Noel-Ignatiev/dp/0415918251
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Dramarama Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 12:06 AM
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25. Especially in New Orleans
Harsh discrimination for Italians
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:16 PM
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12. Gringa and gringo are not slurs in and of themselves.
They need a modifier. Gringa and gringo are used to distinguish a North American from a South or Central American. In our hubris we like to think that only we are the AMERICANS.

Gringo : Mexican = not slurs
Filthy Gringo : Filthy Mexican = slurs

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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:29 PM
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16. What about "anglo". I've heard that used by Hispanics,yet I don't
consider that a slur------gringa I do.

That said,I guess it's all a matter of perception.

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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:51 PM
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20. So, you don't mind being referred to as "English"
but you have a problem with a word that describes your foreignness?
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 10:01 PM
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21. Anglo is a term I've heard local Hispanics use,and it covers any non-Hispanic.
Don't ask me where they came up with the appellation,but it includes all of us,Irish,English,Swedes,Germans, etc. You get the point.

I assume it is because we speak English,and no,it doesn't bother me.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:34 PM
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18. The origin is actually funny
GREEN GO... see many of the troops going down to Mexico in 1848 wore green uniforms, since they ran out of blue. So it means, GREEN, as in green clad uniform, GO. leave my country.

Now there are a few other slurs from Mexico that are far worst than this... one
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 08:57 PM
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5. Agreed. It's offensive.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:09 PM
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9. I don't know where you live but gringo is used to distiguish...
North Americans from Central and South Americans. It makes no sense for Mexicans to call U.S. citizens, "Americans", because Mexicans are "Americans", too. This does not mean that "gringo" can't be used in a disparaging manner. But, so can "Mexican".
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 12:09 AM
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26. I don't think it is an ethnic slur
I believe it is meant to identify foreigners.

It can be used as one so context matters when it's being used but it's used all over Central & South America with no negative connotation.
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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:03 PM
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7. Why is gringo OK and other ethnic slurs not?
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:49 PM
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19. thankyou...
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:18 PM
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14. Because it is not an ethnic slur.
It is a term to distinguish one American from another American. This does not mean that it can't be used as an insult, but in order for it to be one, it needs a negative modifier.
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Dramarama Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 11:58 PM
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24. Well, redskin is okay
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 02:56 AM
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27.  I agree
I hate it when I hear white here in Arizona use the word wetback.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 11:55 PM
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23. i too am offended by your use of the word gringo..
i'd rsther be referred to as guero, thank you.
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