Hi, been a while. So. Are we agreed yet that our country is totally fucked?

[shadowknows69]

Discuss.

[NanceGreggs]

1. No, actually ...

... we are not agreed.

Discuss.

[shadowknows69]

3. I guess we must agree to disagree Ms. Greggs

Regardless it is good to "see" you. I missed my DU friends.

[NanceGreggs]

7. It is good to "see" you, too.

Agreeing to disagree is what it's all about.

:toast:

Hope all is well with you and yours.

[shadowknows69]

10. All is pretty messed up as always.

but while there's breath there is hope.

[laughingliberal]

2. It's good to see you.

I think we're pretty well fucked. The march to the right continues and the denial about it just gets worse with each new example. The 2 party system has us all trapped in hell and hell light.

[ohheckyeah]

4. No, not yet.

At this point just a victim of rough oral sex. :-)

[shadowknows69]

6. I wish.

[ohheckyeah]

8. Hey, it's not only been rough

but really poorly done oral sex.

[shadowknows69]

9. Unfortunate. If only we'd known each other in another life.

I do practiced and careful work. On females that is. I think that's important to point out.

[ohheckyeah]

11. LOL

But you aren't a Republican. ;-)

[Subdivisions]

5. Good to see you, shadow. Yes, we are totally fucked. And denial is the driving reason. However,

it doesn't have to be a bad thing. I'm optimistic that once we shed this modern orgy of consumption, greed, and self-centeredness and get back to what's really important, we'll be in a much better place. We have to shift the paradigm.

[Goldstein1984]

12. It's been said before

Nobody listened.

It's gotten worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRAU11JXcvU&feature=fvw

[shadowknows69]

14. Carlin was modern prophet.

[Juche]

13. For the short term

I don't think people will put up with this forever.

[TexasObserver]

15. No. It's considerably better than it was 15 months ago.

[AllentownJake]

18. For whom? nt

[shadowknows69]

20. Bankers, big pharma and the elite in general.

[AllentownJake]

22. Just checking nt.

[TexasObserver]

28. For most.

Jake, are you here to congratulate me about being right about the first quarter and the state of the economy? It did exactly as I predicted, didn't it? No crash. No thousands of points drop in the DOW. None of that gloom and doom you and others were predicting.

It's a long, long way from being well, but any suggestion it isn't improved is simply asinine.

[AllentownJake]

32. I didnt anticipate

Ben Bernake would go that far with the printing...pay me now or pay me later.

Foreclosures are hitting record levels, the banking system is still insolvent but living due to mark to market, and job creation hasn't occurred and I expect the new jobs to kind of suck and further deflate the housing situation.

As for the DOW, I really didn't think they'd tolerate the banks not lending to keep that going...I was wrong. Volume is low and there is little evidence this is a middle class driven rally, in fact all evidence appoints from those investors hiding out from it or looking for an exit.

I was wrong on the stock market, because I actually thought they'd eventually stop extend and pretend.

[shadowknows69]

16. morning kick. Hi DU!!!

[AllentownJake]

17. The math isn't good

I give it a low probability of not being fucked.

[madokie]

19. Hello Shadow

A very Fine man you are. No we aren't fucked just yet and we may have dodged a bullet as I think the retilicons are about to turn everyones stomachs to the point that it will be hard to find any after this next election.
Have a great day and with hopes coming your way for that to be. :hi:

You do realize that you helped to paint the picture of what our kids were going through in Iraq and Afghanistan with your damn fine take on their plight back when you were driving them first one place then the other as a cabbie. :hug:

I hope you and yours is doing well

[shadowknows69]

21. Thank you madokie. I've missed you.

[WilliamPitt]

23. No.

But welcome back. :)

[shadowknows69]

26. Thank you Mr. Pitt. Good to see you. I'll be here all week.

Don't try the veal.

[Paladin]

24. Yeah, Pretty Much.

Nice to hear from you.

[sendero]

25. Not forever..

... but for the next several years. After that, who knows?

[Cresent City Kid]

27. We're fucked, but is it totally yet?

Turning things around will be like making a u-turn with a train, we'll have to lay the track ahead of time before we get run over. The world view of many will have to change, for instance the idea that a recession means the middle class get a faint wiff of what the poor go through in good times and bad.

[Mother Smuckers]

29. Of course not.

...

[Obamanaut]

30. No, as the character in "Roadhouse" said, "Opinions vary." In my

opinion, yours is wrong.

There is room for improvement, but as far as 'totally fucked'? No.

[starroute]

31. Can we compromise on moderately fucked?

For one thing, I can still see a few possible pathways out of the mess, though they're narrow and getting narrower.

For another, the United States is not the world, and though the American Empire may be primed to go down, there are signs of hope elsewhere.

For a third -- what was it they used to say -- "Nature bats last"? There are any number of things which could happen that we don't expect and over which we have no control but which would fundamentally alter the course of events.

So be of good cheer, because the future is not yet written.

[backscatter712]

33. No, we'll lurch along as we always have - one step forward, two steps back...

It always has been a struggle, and always will be.

[Greyhound]

34. Not totally, but but pretty badly.

Good to read you, missed you in the middle of the damn night.