2 questions about Arizona's new bill...

[w8liftinglady]

and sources if you have them(Yes,I have googled)
1.What documentation are citizens required to carry?
2.What constitutes "probable cause" or "reasonable suspicion"?
Thanks.

[Xipe Totec]

1. Answers

1.What documentation are citizens required to carry?

A certificate of live birth showing you were born in the US. (If you're a legal resident or a naturalized citizen born outside the US, then you're SOL).

2.What constitutes "probable cause" or "reasonable suspicion"?

A heavy tan.

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. A drivers license won't do?

Don't you need a birth certificate to get a drivers license?

[Xipe Totec]

6. Judge for yourself

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x458296

[ProgressiveProfessor]

7. Some states issue drivers licenses without regard to immigration status

Not sure if Real ID considered immigration status or not.

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. I needed to present my birth certificate to get my license at 16

How do other states verify 16 year olds are old enough to drive?

[jwirr]

10. One thing I have not seen mentioned is that there are other races

that can be mistaken for Hispanic. Native Americans comes to mind. This is going to get heavy traffic in the courts.

[etherealtruth]

12. My children of Indian (from the subcontinent)-Scot-Irish heritage

are mistaken for just about every "brown" ethnicity.

[recoveringrepublican]

13. Both sides of my family are white as white can be, but I get mistaken for a Hispanic

all the time! Even by other Hispanics. I also get Greek, Italian, and Arab by white people frequently. Now they are asking us to trust authorities to decide? And even if Authorities had some amazing talent for sniffing out blood lines, how would it make this right? How many Americans, who are Hispanic, are gonna be inconvenienced, at best?

[LetsgoWings13]

2. i cant wait to see what the courts have to say about this.

[w8liftinglady]

4. I simply can not find anything other than vague answers-I have looked..

[ProgressiveProfessor]

8. There really isn't anything out there yet in terms of implentation

[w8liftinglady]

3. so-if my cousin(Italian-American) andI went to Phoenix,we'd have to carry

our birth certificates...especially if we were wearing the wrong kind of shoes?

[ProgressiveProfessor]

9. CNN report is here, a bit less emotional than many. Comments are shrill though

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/23/immigration.faq/index.html

I for one do not expect this to survive the courts.

[AlphaCentauri]

11. Brian Bilbray Says He Can Spot Undocumented

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/22/brian-bilbray-immigration/