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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 05:35 PM
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Arizona's 10 year pattern of legislation...Nurenburg Laws!
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 06:25 PM by ArizonaLiberal
"Are you insinuating that people being deported are going to be gassed? You are as dumb as those you protest."

"Do you honestly think people will be getting gassed when they are supposed to be deported ? Honestly ? Every single country has immigration laws and borders, and here you are spreading fear and panic over something that might not even happen. Have you ever known someone who has been deported, and heard they were gassed ? This fearful rhetoric you are showing is actually helping the governor want to pass it. Look at how you all panic, for nothing."

The Nazi's did not start out by gassing people, they stared with legislation. Arizona's 10 year pattern of legislation is reminiscent of the Nuremberg Laws of 1935.

Hitler made a speech before the Reichstag in Nuremberg, introducing the laws and their alleged motivation, before the laws were formally read and proposed for adoption by Goring, the President of the Reichstag:

"...Bitter complaints have come in from countless places citing the provocative behavior of Jews....a certain amount of planning was involved.... vigorous defensive action by the people, we have no choice but to contain the problem through legislative measures....it may be possible, through a definitive secular solution, to create a basis on which the German people can have a tolerable relationship with the Jews.] ... This law is an attempt to find a legislative solution....if this attempt fails, it will be necessary to transfer ... to the National Socialist Party for a final solution."

The video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSD-ja6XHhM

So it continues.....

STATEMENT BY GOVERNOR JAN BREWER

“Thank you for being here today, to join me as we take another step forward in protecting the state of Arizona.


The bill I’m about to sign into law – Senate Bill 1070 – represents another tool for our state to use as we work to solve a crisis we did not create and the federal government has refused to fix …


… The crisis caused by illegal immigration and Arizona’s porous border.


This bill, the Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act, strengthens the laws of our state.


It protects all of us, every Arizona citizen and everyone here in our state lawfully.


And, it does so while ensuring that the constitutional rights of ALL in Arizona remain solid — stable and steadfast.


I will now sign Senate Bill 1070.


For weeks, this legislation has been the subject of vigorous debate and intense criticism. My decision to sign it was by no means made lightly.


I have listened patiently to both sides. I have considered the significance of this new law long into the night. I have prayed for strength and prayed for our state.


I’ve decided to sign Senate Bill 1070 into law because, though many people disagree, I firmly believe it represents what’s best for Arizona. Border-related violence and crime due to illegal immigration are critically important issues to the people of our state, to my Administration and to me, as your Governor and as a citizen.


There is no higher priority than protecting the citizens of Arizona. We cannot sacrifice our safety to the murderous greed of drug cartels. We cannot stand idly by as drop houses, kidnappings and violence compromise our quality of life.


We cannot delay while the destruction happening south of our international border creeps its way north.


We in Arizona have been more than patient waiting for Washington to act.


But decades of federal inaction and misguided policy have created a dangerous and unacceptable situation.


Yesterday, I announced the steps I was taking to enhance security along our border.


Today – with my unwavering signature on this legislation – Arizona strengthens its security WITHIN our borders.


Let me be clear, though: My signature today represents my steadfast support for enforcing the law — both AGAINST illegal immigration AND against racial profiling.


This legislation mirrors federal laws regarding immigration enforcement.


Despite erroneous and misleading statements suggesting otherwise, the new state misdemeanor crime of willful failure to complete or carry an alien registration document is adopted, verbatim, from the same offense found in federal statute.


I will NOT tolerate racial discrimination or racial profiling in Arizona.


Because I feel so strongly on this subject, I worked for weeks with legislators to amend SB 1070, to strengthen its civil rights protections.


That effort led to new language in the bill, language prohibiting law enforcement officers from “solely considering race, color, or national origin in implementing the requirements of this section…”


The bill already required that it “shall be implemented in a manner consistent with federal laws regulating immigration, protecting the civil rights of all persons and respecting the privileges and immunities of United States citizens.”


While the general protection was already included, I believe the issue is so important, we needed to make it CRYSTAL clear.


And I believe that we need to more than simply inscribe it in statute.


Words in a law book are of no use if our police officers are not properly trained on the provisions of SB 1070, including its civil rights provisions.


Today I am issuing an executive order directing the Arizona Peace Officer Standards and Training Board – AZPOST — to develop training to appropriately implement SB 1070.


Importantly, this training will include what DOES – and DOES NOT – constitute “reasonable suspicion” that a person is not legally present in the United States.


Currently, AZPOST serves approximately 170 law enforcement agencies encompassing over 16,000 sworn peace officers, 9,000 correctional service officers, and 16 training academies.


The AZPOST Board of Directors includes the Arizona Attorney General, the Directors of the Arizona Department of Public Safety, the Arizona Department of Corrections, several county sheriffs, and local police departments.


I am also asking the Board to make recommendations on possible improvements to SB 1070 before the end of the year.


For 28 years in public service, I have worked without fail to solve problems diligently and practically. I have done so always with an eye toward civility, and always with the greatest respect for the rule of law.


This new law is no different: As committed as I am to protecting our state from crime associated with illegal immigration I am EQUALLY committed to holding law enforcement accountable should this statute ever be misused to violate an individual’s rights.


Respect for the rule of law means respect for every law. I have led that way every day in every office I have ever held. That will not change.


I have also spent my career in service to Arizona working to bring people together, no matter the color of their skin and no matter the depth of our disagreements.


This bill – and this issue – will be no exception.


While protecting our citizens is paramount, it cannot come at the expense of the diversity that has made Arizona so great. Nor can safety mean a compromise of freedom for some, while we, the many, turn a blind eye.


We must acknowledge the truth – people across America are watching Arizona, seeing how we implement this law, ready to jump on even the slightest misstep.


Some of those people from outside our state have an interest in seeing us fail.


They will wait for a single slip-up, one mistake, and then they will work day and night to create headlines and get the face time they so desperately covet.


We cannot give them that chance.


We must use this new tool wisely, and fight for our safety with the honor Arizona deserves.


We must react calmly.


We must enforce the law evenly, and without regard to skin color, accent, or social status.


We must prove the alarmists and the cynics wrong.


I know in my heart that this great state, my home for more than 40 years, is up to the task.


I believe every one of us wants to be safe, and none of us wants to compromise on the subject of civil rights.


I believe we must love and honor those who fight beside us – just as we must love and honor those who look and believe nothing like we do.


I believe Arizona, like America, is governed by laws.


Good laws … well-intentioned laws … laws that confer respect and that demand respect in return.


In his third State of the Union address, President Theodore Roosevelt said, “No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man’s permission when we require him to obey it. Obedience to the law is demanded as a right; not asked as a favor.”


So, let us move forward — ever mindful of our rights …


– ever faithful to the law … and ever conscious of our bond as Arizonans, and the blessing we share together.


Thank you.”
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 05:45 PM
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1. correct title to Nuremberg
ah, but don't you know, it's Obama who is going to go Reichstag on Arizona? :sarcasm:

According to @andilinks, anyway.

http://twitter.com/andilinks

She's out-Joe McCarthying even Ann Coulter.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jLmX_8LH3uo/R1hiLnVX5wI/AAAAAAAABys/ENUucdj29Oc/s400/Ann+Coulter+at+J.+McCarthy+Grave.JPG




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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 06:27 PM
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3. Thank you for the correction
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 05:45 PM
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2. It's spelled Nuremberg
:eyes:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 06:30 PM
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4. I don't know about you - but I am going to be working my butt off to get
Goddard elected in November, and whatever I can do to get Glassman elected - but I don't think he has a chance.

And the next time I get a letter from the DNC asking for money - they are going to get a looong letter from me.
I don't know if it will help but I am sick and tired of Arizona being ignored. Seriously - now because of Arizona the Senate has to take up immigration reform - a heated debate - right before midterms.

The Democrats in this state are just going to have to fight harder. Hopefully we will all be motivated by the last few months and we can GOTV.
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AzJusticeFreedom Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 06:30 PM
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5. Thanks for posting.
Good info.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 06:35 PM
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6. Ugly as this law is, it's not
really comparable to the Nuremberg Laws- which stripped citizenship. If this law is comparable to the Nuremberg laws than so is the veil banning in France.

Hyperbole doesn't really serve to make an effective argument.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 06:58 PM
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8. Only if you refuse to see it.
Frog/Water

It's the little steps - but taken all together, they all add up...

Nothing will ever be EXACTLY the same - but this is really getting close.

You can't really be saying you see NO similarities?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:10 PM
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9. nah, not really.
it's a horrible law, but it's not a federal law- the Nuremberg Laws certainly were. In fact, it's likely that the federal gov't will challenge it.

Are there similarities? In that they're both laws that target minorities, sure, but it's actually less similar than say the Jim Crow laws or even the banning of veils in France.
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:11 PM
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10. You are right, it was a companion piece.
The Reich Citizenship Law
(September 15, 1935)

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The Reich Citizenship Law stripped Jews of their German citizenship and introduced a new distinction between “Reich citizens ” and “nationals.” Certificates of Reich citizenship were in fact never introduced and all Germans other than Jews were until 1945 provisionally classed as Reich citizens.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Article I

1. A subject of the State is a person who belongs to the protective union of the German Reich, and who therefore has particular obligations towards the Reich.

2. The status of subject is acquired in accordance with the provisions of the Reich and State Law of Citizenship.

Article 2

1. A citizen of the Reich is that subject only who is of German or kindred blood and who, through his conduct, shows that he is both desirous and fit to serve the German people and Reich faithfully.

2. The right to citizenship is acquired by the granting of Reich citizenship papers.

3. Only the citizen of the Reich enjoys full political rights in accordance with the provision of the laws.

Article 3

The Reich Minister of the Interior in conjunction with the Deputy of the Fuhrer will issue the necessary legal and administrative decrees for carrying out and supplementing this law.

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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 06:49 PM
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7. Oh, Jesus. The Godwin infractions just keep getting worse and worse around here.
-1000 points.

:eyes:
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ArizonaLiberal Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:19 PM
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11. More like
Benford's law of controversy.
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