I think the dems need to worry about Ron Paul

[Windy]

He is running as a anti-war republican and is polling very well so far on MSNBC and other post debate polls.

[tanyev]

1. He's got to win the primary first.

Freepers can't stand him.

[Windy]

7. But they are the crazy base

60% of americans are anti war. Not all of them are dems. He can get those who are more moderate and searching for an antithesis to Bush, and if he gets through the primaries, he could stand to get the independent voters.

[tanyev]

13. But not many of those 60% vote in GOP primaries.

[Richardo]

2. He can't hide his libertarianism forever

But I do appreciate the fact that he's a straight shooter.

[dave_p]

3. he's small fry at present

He's no chance of winning the nomination of a chickenhawk GOP. A third-party candidacy could be a problem, but I suspect he'd take more disgruntled Republican than libertarian Democrat votes.

[global1]

4. I'm Thinking His Numbers Were Up On the MSNBC Poll Because It Was DU'ed.....nt

[BurtWorm]

5. Doubt it.

He'll never pass muster with the religios on either the right or the left.

[Wiley50]

6. Affiliation with Alex Jones will be Ron Paul's downfall

http://www.google.com/custom?q=Ron+Paul&sa=Search&cof=A...

http://www.google.com/search?q=Ron+Paul&btnG=Google+Sea...


If he gains any creds at all
They'll just pull the rug out from under him
via Alex jones

[Windy]

8. That is rather significant n/t

[Oreo]

10. How so?

Who is Alex Jones and why would it matter? I googled "ron paul" "alex jones" and didn't see anything that would smoke him

If he somehow winds up being a 3rd party candidate he'd siphon a lot of votes from probably both sides.

[Wiley50]

12. surf Jones' websites infowars.com and prisonplanet.com for a few minutes

unless you're a fruitcake
you'll figure out why

[Oreo]

14. So because Alex Jones supports him...

he can't get any votes? Those are some interesting sites.
Osama supported Bush just before the 2004 election sand he stole it "won" anyway

[Wiley50]

17. No. Because they'll use those sites to swiftboat him

I find those sites interesting and surf them from time to time
same with rense.com

But I take most of what I read there with several grains of salt

[Oreo]

21. Rense is fun isn't it?

Kind of like the website version of Coast to Coast.

[Beelzebud]

22. Rense was fun until I realized he's a holocaust denyer...

[Oreo]

25. K... so rense is an ignorant bastard

so much for going to that site again!

[Beelzebud]

27. That was pretty much my reaction too.

If you dig around on the site you'll see what I mean. He doesn't put it up there as the front item of the day, but it's there.

He is a big supporter of Ernst Zundel and Mark Weber, two very well-known holocaust deniers; both having been on his show numerous times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Rense#Alleged_Anti-Semitism

[skipos]

9. No way.

That is just a bunch of Dems voting for him because he is the least idiotic of the bunch. He is going nowhere, and you can verify that by looking at scientific polls in a week.

Most Republicans aren't anti-war, why do you think warmongers like McCain and Dame Rudy are leading the primary polls.

[Ediacara]

11. He might be popular with the public at large, but the GOP base...

GOP base : Ron Paul :: Dem Base : Joe Lieberman

In other words, there's no way in Hell he's getting the nomination.

[Oreo]

15. Right... but what if he pulled a Lieberman

and ran as a 3rd party. Nader redux?

[Ediacara]

18. Lieberman won this last time around because the GOP candidate was insane

and a bunch of Republicans voted for Lieberman because he was at least, less insane. If Paul ran third party, as he did in 1988, he'd probably not get a large number of votes, as that's what generally happens.

[rucky]

16. If he's the R nominee, I can live with that.

not that I'd vote for him, but to have two (assumed) "antiwar" candidates vying for prezzie increases our chances of getting out of this mess.

[slampoet]

23. We had two candidate who said they were against the war in 1972 if you recall....

...that didn't work out so good.

[slampoet]

24. sorry double post

[qanda]

19. Worry about him

I'm about ready to vote for him. (only kidding) But he has been against this war from the start and he made sense when there was little sense to be made in Congress.

[TahitiNut]

20. For every 'dem' worried about Ron Paul, three 'dems' should be supporting Kucinich.

:shrug:

After all, it'd be delusional to contend that Kucinich isn't at least three times more 'electable' than Ron Paul.

[CBHagman]

26. Actually, I wouldn't worry in the least.

The GOP primaries are not designed to keep people like Ron Paul in the race. What we have to worry about is a GOP candidate who wins the primaries and then poses as a moderate to draw independent and Democratic voters.

[ncteechur]

28. The GOP machine will NOT allow Ron Paul to win the nomination.

[mdmc]

29. In an ideal world, yes. And the GOP would be fearing Kucinich

Trust me, it will be McCain / Ghouliani vs. Clinton / ObamaEdwardsRichardsonPelosi

[MadBadger]

30. Do you realize how many liberals are voting in those polls?

Ron Paul has absolutely no chance of getting the nomination.

[meldroc]

31. Ron Paul's the only one of the bunch I have respect for.

Granted, I disagree with a whole bunch of his views, but unlike the rest of the Republicans, Ron Paul is a true libertarian.

Which is why he will not get the nomination - the rich oligarchs running this country into the ground don't want to be giving liberty to them po' folk.