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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 09:19 PM
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Seems the DSCC is still taking sides against Jennifer Brunner in Ohio.
Bob Menendez said last year he would support Lee Fisher and oppose Jennifer's candidacy. Looks like he is really going to do that.

From Hotline on Call:

DSCC To Play In OH Primary?

Two sources say the DSCC has been calling around to Ohio TV stations asking for air time in advance of the May 4 primary between Sec/State Jennifer Brunner and LG Lee Fisher.

According to Brunner, who spoke with Hotline OnCall late last year, DSCC Chair Bob Menendez told her he would spend money against a primary candidate with little campaign cash. Menendez has not been shy about his support for Fisher over Brunner.

Fisher has an ad airing in some OH markets but is running low on cash. While favored, he's still running neck-and-neck with Brunner, who's kept the contest more competitive than Beltway strategists would like.


Menendez said last year that he would attack her if she ran against his pick Lee Fisher.

The DSCC is attacking one of Ohio's best progressive candidates.


Jennifer Brunner is Ohio's Secretary of State who has been so brave fighting election change. She has put up with death threats as well.

Bob Menendez, the head of the DSCC, is threatening to attack Jennifer Brunner if she is deemed to not have enough money in her primary against perennial loser Lee Fisher.

The DSCC has all but written her off, however, and the establishment has turned to Fisher. In fact, Brunner said when she spoke with DSCC Chair Bob Menendez in Sept., he first told her that he “didn’t want to see a Democratic candidate at the end of the primary with zero dollars,” and he followed up that his organization would go into the state to work against a candidate perceived as “being negative in the primary or not raising enough money.”

Brunner said she responded: “If you do that, the women of Ohio will never forgive you.” Menendez, she said, retorted: “I know you’re not scared of me, and I’m not scared of you.”


All because Lee Fisher has more money. Newsflash, Bob. Lee Fisher CANNOT WIN THE SEAT. He has lost his last two statewide campaigns, the most recent in 1998 to BOB TAFT, after OUTRAISING Bob Taft.


He actually told her he was not afraid of her.

There is a rather angry blog post up today at Ohio Daily.

How to destroy a party from within

Now, it's open knowledge that Jennifer Brunner and Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey, the current head of the DSCC, don't get along, and that Jennifer was pretty blunt with him. The DSCC has shown naked favoritism to Lee Fisher, to the point of being instrumental in crushing Jennifer's fundraising. That's not just some rumor: Menendez and his
henchmen have been actively warning donors away from this campaign.

But apparently, it wasn't enough. If the DSCC is indeed planning to spend the money on Fisher primary ads that their Democratic donors gave them in hopes of electing a more progressive Senate, they're admitting that all their strong-arm, behind-the-scenes tactics haven't kept Jennifer from being competitive, so now they have to press their thumb even harder on the scale to drag Lee Fisher by the scruff of his neck through the primary. That sure doesn't say a lot for his ability to beat Rob Portman in November. And it says they backed the wrong candidate to begin with. If Jennifer is still so competitive she's scaring them into misappropriating money like this, it's clear that if they had backed Jennifer, she'd been running away with this election.

Maybe they can push Lee Fisher over the primary finish line. It's hard to guess. But they won't be able to rebuild relationships with angry Democrats — not just here but around the country — who don't like the insiders boys club in Washington telling them who their candidate should be.


Jennifer Brunner deserves better treatment than that from her party. She withstood death threats to make sure Ohio had fair elections.



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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 09:25 PM
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1. Also post in Ohio Group so locals can see this and perhaps act.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 09:26 PM
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2. jenny is a friend of mine .....
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 09:28 PM by Botany
This has to do w/ the fact she would not and will not take PAC money, bank money and so on. The good old boy system in the Ohio Dem
Party wants to keep the cash following in and is more than willing to work to stop Jenny from having a fair shot.

Jennifer is one of the good ones.


http://www.jenniferbrunner.com/page/content/thecourageexpress
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 09:28 PM
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3. My boy Andrew won't take PAC money either.
And he's kicking the hell out of the carpetbagger Bennet here in Colorado.

He's also polled to defeat any Republicans that they can muster up.

Rethugs in Colorado are in trouble already - they're still screeching and clawing and trying to out-teabag each other (Buck vs Norton)

Hawkeye-X
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:45 PM
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6. I will send her money..thanks for telling us about her!!..proudly I will send her money! eom
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 03:31 PM
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16. Send me some money too Fly!
I'm not running for anything, but the cost of beer is going up!

:hi:
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 09:40 PM
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4. DSCC is so wrong on this one
Jennifer has been a fantastic SOS and restored integrity to the voting system in Ohio. She is the absolute best choice to the Dem candidate for U.S. Senate and as a Senator would be strong voice for Progressives all over the U.S. just like her former boss, Sherrod Brown.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:10 PM
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5. The two committees have done the same thing in FL ...
over and over.

It is so frustrating.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:47 PM
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7. absolutely..they even run repigs as dems and give them money and not any money to the good people..
the progressives and real liberals get nothing in Fla. from either group or the FDP!

But don't worry the Chair of the FDP lovesssssssssssssss..repig's and jebbies friends money and martini's!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:18 AM
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8. Mahoney/Lutrin....perfect example.
of running a Republican against a good Democrat. Lutrin was forced out because they dried up his fundraising.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 07:48 AM
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12. I have worked with and for so many great candidates that they have done that to in Fla.
Edited on Tue Apr-27-10 07:48 AM by flyarm
and it comes from the top of the food chain..in DC!!

And it accelerated in 2008, to such a level, I left the DEC and anything to do with the Dems now, locally and nationally.

It is all a con game..and I can't say it enough..there are no two parties..it is an illusion ..there is one party, with one money pot in the middle!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 10:16 AM
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13. Jan Schneider and now they are doing it to Doug Tudor...
The picks are made in advance, no one else need apply.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:38 AM
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9. I only donate to candidates. Fuck the DLC 'leadership' orgs. knr for exposure.
Edited on Tue Apr-27-10 12:39 AM by Union Yes
edit: I mean that I only donate directly to candidates for clarification.

Peace
UY
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 12:48 AM
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10. I am so proud to support her, especially with these tactics
against her.

Fuck the DSCC and everyone in their circle.

:kick:
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Corey_Baker08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:07 AM
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11. I Have Met & I Am A Member Of SOS Brunner's Campaign Here In Darke County, OHIO
I have believed strongly in her as a person and as a candidate when during her race for Ohio Secretary of State, She Actually took the time to sit down with me, then a young cocky 16 year old Reporter for my High School Newspaper and Ask Her Several Questions, Some Tough Questions about the Possibility of Election Fraud Occuring in Ohio in 2004's Presidential Election. She Answered each question very passionately and assured me that there would never again be any voting irregularites in the state of Ohio again if she was Elected SOS. She was Elected and then enacted early voting and the 2008 election went smoothely and fairly in 2008 election.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 01:35 PM
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14. Glad you are working for her campaign.
We supported her as a DFA candidate previously, and I admire her very much.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 03:11 PM
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15. Fisher is a political parasite. Or prostitute. Take your pick.
I didn't like him when I lived in Ohio. I like him even less now.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-10 05:56 PM
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17. Glad I've turned down ( more than once) DSCC appeals for $, and angrily told 'em why
and BS like this is why...the corporate ass-kissing ,DLC mob ( and I do mean it like THE MOB) that has been busy ruining the Democratic Party will continue to get nothing but angry, in -your face refusals whenever they ask for so much as one single dollar from me.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 01:15 AM
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18. The hell with Fisher. And to hell with the DSCC, too. Jennifer can take them both on!
Edited on Wed Apr-28-10 01:17 AM by w4rma
And with these tactics I'd be happy to see Fisher's political career go down in flames.
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 04:48 AM
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19. Thanks for the heads-up... I'll send her some money this morning
I'm on her mailing list somehow, but I didn't know the back story.

I stopped donating to the DCCC and DSCC, and now I only give to specific candidates who are liberals (I don't want any of my money going to Blue Dogs).

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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 05:05 AM
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20. I already voted for Brunner. /nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 11:21 AM
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21. Goddammit! Fisher lost two statewide races in the past.
One was as the incumbent A.G. The only reason he's Lt.Gov. is because Strickland could have picked bin Laden as a running mate and still won. Brunner has won one and lost none. Plus she's cleaned up the election system after the 2004 disaster. Plus she polls better than Fisher against Portman.

This old-boys party network really needs to end.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 11:33 AM
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22. they have been for a long time. I tried to contact them months ago and look whose name pops up
when you click contact us:

James Carville <info@dscc.org>

Shocking isn't it? The guy who sold out John Kerry's chances to contest the OH election. This is total BS. If Lee is the candidate, he does not have the 2 votes in this household. We no longer support corporate Dems.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 11:37 AM
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23. Carville is their contact person?
I do not like that man, nor do I like his wife.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 11:42 AM
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25. Best title evar: Million Dollar Assholes: Carville, Shrum & Greenberg
Friday, April 08, 2005
Million Dollar Assholes: Carville, Shrum & Greenberg



I love documentaries. A lot. Real people in real situations are always weirder, more original and more interesting than any fiction Hollywood can brew.

I saw a documentary that blew me away today but I don't mean in a good way. It was called Our Brand is Crisis, about how the firm of Carville, Greenberg and Shrum (as in James Ragin' Cajun Carville and Bob $5 million man Shrum) travel around the world meddling in political situations they know little about for fun and profit when they're not busy losing Presidential elections.

The film takes place in the Bolivian election of 2002, when Carville et. al. convinced the Bolivian people they needed to elect Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada, aka Goni, an American-born candidate who speaks Spanish with an accent and who had failed miserably once before as President during the 90s. He is elected by the thinnest of margins, only to be forced to resign 14 months later amid riots that left 100 people dead.
-snip
http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/04/million-dollar-assholes-carville-shrum.html


Whoever these assholes support run in the opposite direction because you can guarantee their corporate sellouts!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 11:38 AM
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24. here's a link...see for yourself:
http://www.dscc.org/about?type=contact_us

click general info and get carville's name :mad:
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