mikeSchmuckabee
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:24 AM
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If you are hispanic and live in arizona, call the cops on your hispanic neighbors. |
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If the cops show, quietly produce your papers. After they leave, call them on the neighbor who called. If the cops don't show, call a lawyer and SUE. Name brewer, pearse, and arpaio as co-defendants and bankrupt the bastards. Fight the law with the law.
Law will be repealed within hours.
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:26 AM
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Some unreccer swallowed it.
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:28 AM
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2. there must be better ways to legally fight this without setting neighbor against neighbor |
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:32 AM
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4. I read it as the neighbors working together. |
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Maybe I read it wrong but it seems to me that the OP is saying that the neighbors work together, calling on each other, and everybody has their papers ready. I'm not sure what it would achieve, but that's how I read it.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding it.
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Tue Apr-27-10 12:14 PM
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14. That was my take too. Solidarity. |
mikeSchmuckabee
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:36 AM
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9. I'm sorry, I don't mean it like that. |
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Set up a network of resistance, don't rat your neighbors out. Call them with "suspicions".
Keep the police so busy checking the status of legal citizens that they are overloaded.
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:30 AM
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3. What about hispanic cops? |
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If one of them pulls you over, do you demand to see their citizenship papers?
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mikeSchmuckabee
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:32 AM
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:33 AM
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7. Why would you only demand papers from Hispanic cops? |
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:40 AM
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11. Everybody needs to start demanding papers from everybody else, soon it will be obvious |
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to even the dimmest that the supporters of this law are fools.
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mikeSchmuckabee
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:42 AM
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12. Oh man, I like that even better! |
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Might be worth a trip and a ticket I'll never pay.
Good call, Xipe Totec.
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:32 AM
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6. what of "birther" cops who refuse to accept your "papers" |
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because after all, that is the next step.
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Tue Apr-27-10 07:49 PM
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16. Or they steal your papers and claim you never had them. |
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Tue Apr-27-10 07:54 PM
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17. I thought that was practically the current step. (nt) |
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:33 AM
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8. Is intentionally making a false report to law enforcement illegal in Arizona? |
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I know it is in California.
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mikeSchmuckabee
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Tue Apr-27-10 11:39 AM
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10. The law specifies "suspicions". |
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I don't think they can qualify it.
I suspect they will be called by plenty of anglos with suspicions.
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Tue Apr-27-10 12:02 PM
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13. why limit it to hispanics? Report the politicians as suspicious illegals |
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Tue Apr-27-10 01:27 PM
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15. Sounds like a good way to wind up in trouble |
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Filing false police report/emergency services abuse have their own repercussions. hopefully you do realize that there is over 40 years of precedence in law delineating the reasonable suspicion standard.
As far as "produce papers on demand" argument goes, if you feel an officer has unreasonably involved you in a Terry stop then pursuing a lawsuit in court against that department makes sense. If you're just out to make a buck, you might not like your day in court, but at least everyone is still entitled to one.
Personally i would rather that nationality and legal status be determined upon arrest, since presumably that is when a full identification is minimally required.
It's amazing that it takes 42 years for some people to suddenly discover their righteous indignation, last year it was totally acceptable, but today it is not?
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Tue Apr-27-10 08:14 PM
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18. I think you are missing the point Riftaxe |
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The new AZ law states that they don't have to arrest them or charge them or even think or assume they are doing something wrong to ask a person to produce their papers that they are a legal citizen. The law states any contact can create a situation in which an officer of the law or court or any state officer can ask someone to produce paperwork that proves that are a legal U.S. resident. If an officer stops someone for the "thought your tags were out of date" or "taillight is out" trick they can go "oh, by the way, do you have your paperwork to prove you are a citizen" without NO NEED to justify the request other than the law ifself. That is the WHOLE ISSUE....Illegal search and seizure and so forth. What AZ is doing is racist and evil and there is no other way to paint the issue
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Wed Apr-28-10 09:32 AM
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19. Which cops, sheriff's (pink underweardude's) dept? |
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Wed Apr-28-10 09:35 AM
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20. The people who have to get out of AZ are any European people here |
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that aren't citizens. You just KNOW they would love to arrest someone like that for tv first.
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