We were here first!!!! Speak English!!!!.....well uh no

[underpants]

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/underpants/36

[Xipe Totec]

1. Don't forget the Russians

The first significant contact between the Russians and the Spanish came in April 1806. Nikolai Resanov had arrived in Sitka the previous year as an "imperial inspector and plenipotentiary of the Russian-American Company." He found the colony on the verge of starvation, and decided to sail southward to Spanish California in hopes of obtaining relief supplies for the beleaguered Alaskan colony. On April 5, he and his scurvy stricken crew passed through the Golden Gate. Rezanov knew that foreign ships were not allowed to trade in California, but he sailed his ship, the Juno, boldly past the Spanish guns at the harbor mouth. For the next six weeks, the Juno lay at anchor in San Francisco Bay while a battle of wits went on between the Russians and the Spanish. The impasse was broken when Rezanov proposed to marry Concepcion Arguello, the teen-age daughter of the Spanish commander at San Francisco. The Juno was soon being loaded with grain for the starving settlement to the north, and on May 21 passed again through the Golden Gate.



http://www.parks.sonoma.net/rosshist.html

[bridgit]

2. To the oppressor goes the thesaurus

[LakeSamish706]

3. And I think you might have forgotten the Native Americans that were displaced by Whittey. n/t

[onehandle]

4. Shh. It's worse to them that Alabama was French territory.

'This is Alabama. We Speak French.'

LOL!

[LakeSamish706]

5. Good one.. lol n/t

[saras]

6. Who's on first?

Seems to be my day to recommend books...1491 in this case, by Charles Mann

There's a good chance there was a civilization forming in America at about the same time the supposedly first civilization was forming in Sumeria.

Civilizations are buried under civilizations, and I mean civilizations, not villages.

The Amazon river basin was, to a surprisingly large extent, engineered and cultivated, as was much of America. Ever wonder why there are so many nut trees on the East coast?

The people we call "Native Americans" are also relative newcomers, and were much more active managers of land than we usually realize.

The book admits that by the time it is published, the rate of new discoveries made it already out of date.

So who was here first? And do we REALLY have to speak their language?

[ZeitgeistObserver]

7. 1421...the Chinese.

:rofl: