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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 08:58 PM
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Can someone help me out on one of the Birther claims?
Edited on Wed Apr-28-10 08:59 PM by Archae
I keep seeing this "Obama paid $2 million to hide his records."

Is there a source for this claim, and for the actual facts?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:08 PM
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1. Just because
it's said a lot doesn't mean it's true.

I have never seen any verification of payments to law firms that substantiate this claim.

I think the burden of proof lies with the accuser. Those who claim Obama has paid all this money to hide his records need to provide verification of such claims. Who are the attorneys? Who are the law firms? What cases?
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:15 PM
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2. Why would you believe anything
from the birthers?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:18 PM
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3. If a RWer said it, you may safely assume it's a deliberate lie.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:20 PM
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4. This one is technically true.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:27 PM
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6. You scared my cat.
She must have jumped 5 feet straight up at the end of that. Poor kitty.

You owe me a bunch of kitty Prozac. ;-)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:31 PM
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7. Yes... your cat.
Your friend, the cat.
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:19 AM
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14. THANK you for making me laugh out loud (so spontaneously it surprised me)
... but I'm sorry for your cat - I don't mean to sound dismissive. One of my best friends ever was my cat... man, I miss him.

If it's any consolation, my dog gets so excited at dinnertime that he'll wag his tail so hard he falls down. It's hysterical but I feel bad laughing at him.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:18 AM
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10. Bastage! lol
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:49 PM
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11. It's actually an ARG.
Try it out.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:23 PM
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5. Respond... " No that was Bush hiding his National Guard Records"
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:44 PM
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8. That claim has been made but there is no evidence of that amount solely for fighting birther claims
Check out this article:
What's Obama's Birther Legal Bill?
Tue Jan. 26, 2010 4:00 AM PST

Is President Barack Obama spending millions of dollars to hide the truth about his citizenship? During Obama's 2008 run for the White House, his campaign and a host of other credible sources repeatedly debunked the conspiracy theory that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and was thus ineligible to serve as president. But this failed to quell the "birther" movement, whose acolytes have filed more than 60 civil lawsuits challenging the president's citizenship. None of these suits have gone anywhere in court. But birthers say that's because Obama has unleashed a phalanx of powerful lawyers to silence them—spending $1.7 million in the process, according to WorldNetDaily (WND), an enthusiastic online promoter of the birthers' cause. Given the sheer number of cases, it seems plausible that the president and the government may have been forced to devote real resources to their defense. But in fact the opposite may be true: The birthers' own copious legal bungling could wind up costing them more than Obama will have to spend defending himself.

The birthers have peppered dozens of state and federal courts around the country with legal challenges—against the president and other government officials and organizations who had some role in allowing Obama's name to be placed on the ballot, including the Federal Election Commission, various state election officials, and the US Supreme Court. Some of the suits, particularly those filed by the movement's leading lady, California lawyer/dentist Orly Taitz, have been headlined by members of the military claiming they've been wrongfully made to serve in foreign wars by an illegitimate commander in chief. Most recently, birther attorneys have represented car dealers who charge that Obama is a phony president who lacked the authority to order a restructuring of Chrysler that they say cost them their businesses.

WorldNetDaily has noted that FEC filings show that Obama's presidential campaign has paid out more than $1.7 million since the election to the law firm of Perkins Coie. Until recently, that firm was home to Obama's campaign lawyer, and now White House counsel, Robert Bauer—the very same DC lawyer, says WND, who has defended Obama in many of the birther lawsuits. Ergo, WND concluded, Obama must be devoting that entire $1.7 million to crushing birthers in court. This is a ridiculous claim: Even after an election is over a presidential campaign has plenty of need for lawyers as it winds down operations and meets campaign finance law requirements.

More: http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/01/whats-obamas-birther-legal-bill
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 05:15 AM
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9. Good article. nt
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EnlightenedOne Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 03:35 PM
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12. LOL
World Nut Daily - created by the Scalife Empire who started all the crap with the Clintons. Whitewater, Paula Jones, etc., etc. This sounds like the same old record being played. Anything to make the Democratic Presidency appear illegitimate and stir anger and resentment. Well, it worked the last time. Why not do it again.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 01:19 AM
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13. That is the strategy.
And it works like a charm.
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