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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:26 PM
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Arizona DUer's - check in please!
I hope everyone is in better spirits than I am - some jerk in his SUV, next to me at a stoplight, had an Impeach Obama sticker on his back window and I rolled down my window and started yelling at him! I said that was Treasonous - Obama won get over it. Then I remembered that Az is now a right to carry a weapon state and rolled up my window since the only thing I had that could do any damage was a bic lighter.... I actually got scared for a moment. Arizona has been home to me for 38 years. I don't know this state anymore.

Anyway - Here's a facebook page for us
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=120091231336702&ref=nf&v=info#!/group.php?gid=120091231336702

Go ahead and let off some steam! We're getting beat up for no fault of our own. We voted for and elected Janet.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:32 PM
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1. Colorado here.. but sending you my sympathy and empathy...
Edited on Wed Apr-28-10 09:32 PM by hlthe2b
I'm afraid a lot of pain is going to head your state's way and by extension to the people of the state. We went through that in a somewhat smaller way when Amendment 2 passed due to the efforts of the state's homophobes. It was quite some time before that was finally knocked out by the courts and I believe the boycotts were somewhat successful. Progressives got to be branded along with the bigots, for some time by the rest of the country.

I hope for everyone's sake that this gets a rapid "cure."
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:37 PM
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2. Thanks :) It's hard to be going thru this especially when you try
to be involved in local races and work for the Dems, and then get punished just because the same people that you work and vote against decide to go crazy.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:37 PM
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3. Joined Thanks
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:40 PM
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4. Ran into a guy today...........
on the corner of Yonge and Dundas in Toronto...wearing a t-shirt with a picture of Obama and the caption "the antichrist" on it.

Found out that there are a lot of "pro-life" nutbars who support Harper's decision to not fund abortion in aid packages to other countries; the GWBush thing.

I don't understand my country anymore, either. We seem to be heading backwards, not forward.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 09:48 PM
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5. If you've lived here that long, you know this isn't, by any means, chapter one in the book on...
...racism, Arizona style. It took losing the Superbowl for Republican governor Evan Mecham to be thrown under the bus by his own party in the '90s. You'd think they would have learned their lesson but I guess bigotry is in their DNA. Take that asshole William Rehnquist, for example. In a clear act of intimidation, he tried to administer a literacy test to African American and Chicano voters at the polls, back in the early 1960s. This is a matter of public record.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:03 PM
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6. Impeach means he knows Obama is Prez which puts him a few brain cells ahead of the average birther.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:09 PM
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10. Lol - love it! I'll keep that in mind next time before I start screaming out my window.
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:04 PM
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7. wanna yell LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE or in this case Arizona
the constant influx of elderly mostly republicans, will always have a retarding effect on our Public Evolution.
So remind midwestern people giving you shite that their state would be worse, if Grandpa was there voting.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:08 PM
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9. Alot of the people that I meet are younger with families.
In 2008, I actually thought that was why Arizona was becoming more blue. Obama was within 10 points of McCain...and this is McCain's state.
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:16 PM
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13. Yes, but the huge gulf course retirement communities - that pay no school tax
do have a slowing effect.
The good news is that New Mexico, and Colorado are headed from purple to blue.
A few more years and AZ will be solidly purple.

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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:06 PM
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8. Was for a long time, TOO long
Worked my ass off to get Hayworth out and left shortly thereafter.. I give up on that state.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:10 PM
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11. You should live in Mississippi like I did
I find Arizona far more progressive and more likely to turn blue than Mississippi. I see people here in Arizona that really are working hard to move the state forward while in Mississippi I almost never ran into another progressive.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:26 PM
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16. Where in MS? I live in MS, and the capital and the coast is pretty blue, so
Edited on Wed Apr-28-10 10:55 PM by Shell Beau
where did you live? I live near the capital and also lived in the delta.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:40 PM
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17. hahah, Im a Shreveport, Louisiana native ..
Moved to AZ in 1999 thinking it was progressive ; p
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:10 PM
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12. Getting Hayworth out was sweet! And now he's Baaack....just like Poltergeist.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:17 PM
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14. He's baaack....
About 150 lbs. lighter and more insane than ever!
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:48 PM
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18. If he wins the primary
What Tedski said before the meanie shut down his blog about Arizona being more progressive statewide then conservative will flip Glassman in.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 10:22 PM
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15. Not from AZ. I live in MS, but I kinda feel your pain.
Edited on Wed Apr-28-10 10:22 PM by Shell Beau
Just kind of though. MS gets shit on all of the time, but nothing like AZ right now. I am sure it has some wonderul people there, and from what I hear, it is a beautiful place. All of our states can suck. Only some of them share a border with other countries. AZ could easily be another state right now. :hi:
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The Damned Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-10 11:59 PM
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19. Not Arizonan.....
...but kicking to allow the sensible people of that state to weigh in.
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 12:26 AM
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20. I ended up here accidentally (long story). I love so much about it,
but that certainly does NOT include it's bigoted, R-weighted politics or those who agree/vote with and for them.

I've been in Phoenix for several years now (but I consider myself as bi-coastal - of two homes - for personal/emotional reasons and time spent in my 'original' home every year). When I got here, I felt an immediate, visceral connection. It reminded me a lot of the time I spent as a kid on the reservation in eastern Wa (why, I don't know - the terrain only hinted at being desert-y in comparison. But something clicked and I felt like I belonged. In terms of the land, that is).

I got increasingly interested in politics when I got here, and learned that as much as I love the natural beauty of this place, the ugliness of much of the political ideology made me mad, disgusted and embarrassed for what I thought this multicultural remnant of rugged independence.

This representation of AZ just makes me ill. I find myself both wholeheartedly agreeing with those who lambaste AZ outright - and sadly defensive because this idiocy doesn't include me or what I love of this place.

The harm this idiocy will cause our Hispanic community, tourism, economy and general standing with the rest of this nation and others, not the least of which being Mexico.

Arizona has been assaulted by racist bigots who do NOT represent the rest of us, or what is (or could be) so wonderful about this state. I get no glee out of the fact that they've shot themselves in the foot as well, because the damage to all of us - whatever degree of citizenship we may have.

Just hoping for blue and for people-with-brains to clarify to the governor that AZ is not a sovereign nation, and doesn't understand the Constitution, but finally enact a workable, positive, humanitarian plan for reform.

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