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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 08:10 AM
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Mexicans slam Arizona immigration law, but how do they treat their migrants?
Mexicans slam Arizona immigration law, but how do they treat their migrants?

By Sara Miller Llana Sara Miller Llana – Wed Apr 28, 6:50 pm ET

Mexico City – As Mexicans decry the Arizona immigration law and launch boycotts of Arizona, Amnesty International released a scathing new report urging Mexicans to look in the mirror.

“Invisible Victims: Migrants on the Move in Mexico” details the abuse faced by Central American migrants, who cross the southern border between Guatemala and Mexico, usually en route to the US.

Each year, tens of thousands of migrants make the trip.

Many lose limbs from accidents on trains they board to head northward. Women and girls report sexual violence. And - far worse than asking suspected illegal immigrants about their US immigration status, as the new Arizona law will require police to do - many Central American migrants to Mexico accuse Mexican officials of demanding bribes or flat-out stealing their cash.

"Migrants in Mexico are facing a major human rights crisis leaving them with virtually no access to justice, fearing reprisals and deportation if they complain of abuses," Rupert Knox, Mexico Researcher at Amnesty International, said. "Persistent failure by the authorities to tackle abuses carried out against irregular migrants has made their journey through Mexico one of the most dangerous in the world."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100428/wl_csm/297614
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 08:13 AM
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1. Not well. That's for sure. I'm personally thankful that I don't live there. n/t
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 08:16 AM
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2. The pot and the kettle
This has been well known for a long, long time. Only the lead dog gets a view; to the rest, there's always some asshole in front of them.
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Demstud Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 08:41 AM
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3. That's horrible but...
What Mexico is or is not doing shouldn't be relevant to what Arizona is doing. We should be judging our own laws based on their own merits or lack of, not how bad they are relative to another country's actions. Just because there is a greater evil in another country, doesn't mean we have to ignore the "lesser" evil in our own.
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Veruca Salt Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 09:03 AM
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4. Unrec
Because the travesty that is the AZ law doesn't need any kind of comparator. It stands by itself as an affront to our constitution and THAT is all that matters. There is no justification that can be made for it and I sure as hell do not want to see excuses like "but they're doing this/that in Mexico!". No.

We were trying to get LGBT civil rights advanced and this law is pushing us two steps back to civil rights based on race and ethnicity.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 10:35 AM
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9. Point is : Who is Mexico to say any thing about the USA or Az
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 10:46 AM by FreakinDJ
If that corrupt piece of shit country known as Mexico would clean up it's own drug induced, crony ridden, pathetic Government then perhaps so many millions of people wouldn't feel compelled to risking their lives to cross illegally into this country

So as far as I'm concerned Mexico can go Fuck their self

Gunmen Kill Union Leader in Mexico
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/world/americas/01mexico.html

Gunmen ambush humanitarian caravan in southern Mexico, killing Finnish man, Mexican activist
http://www.trurodaily.com/News/Canada---World/2010-04-28/article-1043882/Gunmen-ambush-humanitarian-caravan-in-southern-Mexico,-killing-Finnish-man,-Mexican-activist/1

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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 10:39 AM
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10. Mexico called
And they said your mother dresses you funny.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 10:42 AM
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11. ya right
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 10:50 AM
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12. wasnt he supposed to move to Argentina
Come for the Beef, stay for the Nazi Gold!
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 10:58 AM
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14. Bush Buys Ranch in Paraguay: Planning Escape?
Bush Buys Ranch in Paraguay: Planning Escape?

The Bush Family has purchased a 98,840 acre ranch through a secretive land trust in Paraguay. The ranch, which is close to the Brazillian and Bolivean border is also located in proximity to natural gas reserves and a large water reserve.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/2/13421/43718/1009/507485

A nice corrupt little dictatorship easily manipulated and or bought off - should be a perfect fit for some Fuck Wad family like the Bushs
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:20 PM
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16. Ah, the Ugly American rears his head again.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 09:04 AM
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5. And if Mexico jumped off a bridge, I suppose we should, too?
:rofl:
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 09:44 AM
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8. Egg-fucking-zack-lee.
:fistbump:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 09:05 AM
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6. Migrants, peasants, under class, whatever you
Want to call them - are always some of the worst treated in any society.

And we should not judge our bad behavior by
comparing some one elses bad behavior.

No scapegoats.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:03 PM
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15. If comparisons of "not as bad" were prohibited, the Democratic Party would cease to exist.
Both the Republiks and the Democrats have a core of 20% - 30% hardliner, "my party, right or wrong" wackos, and the rest of the nation sways back and forth based on (usually) the last commercial they saw. How else do you imagine that Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, or any of the dozens of other corprocrats get elected as an alternative to the "conservatives"?


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cloudbase Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 09:26 AM
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7. We here on DU
make great sport of pointing out the hypocrisy of those on the right, so it's not much of a reach, nor is it out of bounds, to point out Mexico's.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 10:57 AM
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13. To point out the hypocrisy of Mexico's leaders, not its people, is fair enough and true.
Mexico's leaders should stfu, but I guess politicians (of all nationalities) are known to play to their own domestic constituencies. (Come to think of it that's what Brewer and the legislature are doing and some of them - like McCain on the senatorial level - are probably hypocritical, too.)

OTOH, I wouldn't point to Mexico's treatment of immigrants as any justification for a US law to treat migrants more harshly. I don't think Arizona's republican legislature and governor passed this law as some kind of payback to Mexico for their harsh treatment of migrants. (Maybe it's a retaliatory harsh migrant treatment law with a clause in it that if Mexico improves its treatment of migrants, Arizona will repeal this law. ;) )
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