Breaking on CNN British Ex-Diplomat says WMD intelligence used was false

[Blackhatjack]

British Diplomat says evidence was grossly exaggerated, and has written a book.

[AlCzervik]

1. "Used False" boobies?

[originalpckelly]

2. Blair's government was "submissive"...

:rofl:

Definitely a good little submissive sexually frustrated poodle.

[Javaman]

that maybe funny but the thought of moron* dressed in leather with

a whip is just too much for me.

:scared:

[madokie]

42. must go wash brain now after that visual ;-)

[Blackhatjack]

3. "Blair and Govt furious and will not comment"....

[Blackhatjack]

4. He is being interviewed on CNN right now..

[Supersedeas]

34. when will the Media Establishment wake the hell up!!

[Blackhatjack]

5. Says intelligence was clear Iraq had nothing but a residual effect...

[Blackhatjack]

6. He is addressing the Downing Street Memo, 'confirms what I am saying..."

[Blackhatjack]

8. He challenges his government to debate him and prove his book has inaccuracies...

[napi21]

7. Oooo, I betcha Shrub is more angry than the Poodle!!!!

Is this a Friday news dump on Shrub for a change?????

[Pawel K]

9. Why do all these people wait until they can write a book

do they have no fucking shame?

[napi21]

13. He just said he was too scared and too wedded to his job to speak out

before, and he's very sorry.

Personally, I think he was also afraid for his life! the "crime family" has a lot of dead people who crossed them and are now just a adot in history.

[Pawel K]

19. So if you feel guilty why make money off it

I find all of this to be bullshit. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the truth is starting to come out (as if we didn't know the truth before). But the fact these assholes only tell their story 4 years later after hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost and they tell it in a book they can sell is inexcusable.

[Blackhatjack]

10. He just mentioned David Kelly paid a great price because others did not speak out...

[Blackhatjack]

11. There is a prohibition on disclosing govt secrets in Britain, but once it went to Parliment he could

speak about it.

This is what I understood him to say. A paraphrase.

[Blackhatjack]

14. THis is only going to get better once Blair resigns...

I would expect there to be leaks from all over Britain regarding the false intelligence used to lie us into war with Iraq.

[magellan]

12. Did you catch his name?

[Blackhatjack]

16. I did not. I don't recall his name being displayed.... n/t

[magellan]

22. Ok, thanks.

[montanacowboy]

15. And now the other side of the story

here comes Richard Perle to give us the "truth"

[EFerrari]

17. Why does this stuff take YEARS to get out?

Some of us knew it when we were screaming at our teevees while Colin Powell was lying his @ss off.

:shrug:

[Blackhatjack]

18. See my post above, Britain has a secrecy act ....

[EFerrari]

20. But, how much of a secret could it be if *I* knew better?

I hear what you're saying and do know about the secrecy act. But, f me. If they invoke the act,does that mean we all have to take a magnet to our brains?

It doesn't compute.

[Blackhatjack]

24. It's important more for the fact it is confirmation of what we know from a former govt official...

The way I understand the British State Secrets Act, he as a diplomat could not confirm this information unless and until it was requested and communicated to members of Parliment, which made it possible for him to comment on it.

He is out of government, and I suspect he could not have written the book and got it released while still employed as a diplomat.

Just my take...

[EFerrari]

27. It's weird that way common people can know something

but officials have to jump through hoops before telling the truth. I see what you mean, I think.

And it just makes government seem archaic and out of step. Oh well, bureaucracies are like that.

[Blackhatjack]

29. Seems like a parallel situation to that of Sibel Edmonds....

She is gagged here in the States, and she cannot tell what she knows.

The most important tool in controlling the masses is to control the information they receive.

The Soviet Union arguably fell as a result of the breakdown in control of information available to the people there.

[magellan]

26. I was going to say the same thing

But then it occurred to me: David Kelly paid the highest price possible for attempting to blow the lid off this three (?) years ago. If I was thinking of doing the same, his "suicide" would scare me enough to make me think twice about coming forward.

These bastards have got it all in the bag, don't they? Lie and propagandize at will, hide the truth behind state secrets, and suicide the first person who speaks up to keep everyone else who might think about being a hero in line.

Some 30 years ago I read a book about the mafia called MURDER, INC. It seemed like fiction it was so horrifying, but it was all true. It absolutely chills me to see the comparison with our governments now.

[EFerrari]

28. I believe they killed Dr. Kelly, too.

I don't put anything beyond them.

[Karenina]

30. Dead men tell no tales...

[Blackhatjack]

31. The fact he mentioned Dr. Kelly and regrets not speaking out before his death is impt

This fellow's best protection is to tell all as far and wide as possible.

His revelations may not be groundbreaking, but his confirmation of the truth will resonate with a public that wanted to believe Blair and his government had been straight with them.

[Beaverhausen]

21. How is this "breaking" news?

haven't we known it for 4 years?

[Blackhatjack]

25. See post explanation above....n/t

[formercia]

23. So, Blair really was a Poodle.

giving Poodles a bad name....

[Blackhatjack]

32. IF the truth be known, there is bound to have been some extortion and blackmail going on...

The people at the top would have had the information needed to keep underlings in line and quiet.

I would not put extortion and blackmail past them.

Just like Tom Delay used to roam the halls, 'twisting arms' while votes were held open. It was rumored that Delay had a list of all the 'indiscretions' certain members of his party had engaged in and used that to change some votes.

[MasonJar]

33. Blair could have been the new Sir Winston if he had followed the

path of truth, but for some inexplicable reason he glued himself to the liar Bush, even as he clearly learned that the facts were being manipulated. Blair is, therefore, just another smudge in the history of a great nation. There will always be an England, but Tony Blair will not have a statue dedicated to his honor...he is now a nobody in the history of the realm, which has given us great leaders as the Marlboroughs (including Churchill) and many great poets (never forgetting Shakespeare, but so many more) and original thinkers (Shaw and Russell and Newton) and the list goes on.

[Benhurst]

35. Blair will get his statue, as have all sorts of highly-placed scoundrels, thieves and traitors .

But with any luck, his will meet the same fate as Margaret Thatcher's.

Have they ever glued a new head on that monstrosity?

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. Will they pay attention to the Downing Street Memo now?

They intended to twist the intel to fit their war policy. How many years have we known they were lying? Now they need to be exposed, but the whistle blowers MUST BE PROTECTED. I hope this ex-diplomat is VERY, VERY careful.:(

[bonito]

37. K&R n/t

[babylonsister]

38. FYI: His name is Carne Ross; I googled, but nothing yet. Wolfie

just mentioned DSM!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

39. Catching it on rerun. Wolfie brings up the DSM!!!! So if Wolfie remembers the

DSM, why is he acting so surprised with this new(old)revelation????

[Blackhatjack]

40. I have a suspicion that this ex-diplomat is going to reveal more soon...

the government has already challenged him and his book, and he just challenged the govt to debate him and show the evidence that proves his allegations are untrue.

He has thrown down the gauntlet.

Hope he is not 'accident prone.'

[muriel_volestrangler]

41. Transcript now available

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0705/04/sitroom.01.html

Carne Ross has been discussed on DU before:

20 June 2005: Carne Ross; WMD claims were "totally implausible"

Testimony Blair fought to keep secret made public, charges Blair knew Iraq war was illegal (Dec 2006)

and other references.