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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:14 PM
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Arizona Latino Republicans on the new law. It's Obama's fault.
Total Craziness!


"That said, and even though we are taking a stance against Jan Brewer and Russell Pearce's law, we are ultimately holding President Obama accountable. Obama promised Hispanics that he would pass immigration reform within 90 days of his Presidency. Had Obama carried out his promises to Hispanics last year, the Hispanic community would not be experiencing the crisis we are experiencing right now. There has been recent criticism over our Senator John McCain because John McCain probably feels he cannot win the primary elections due to his previous stances on championing immigration reform and the consistent untrue attacks by Hayworth. It is understandable on why McCain believes he is in the fight of his life. For the record, Senator McCain has taken action in the past while Obama has not. McCain's valuable experience contributed to Americans winning the Iraq war. The problem is this: There are more Latinos registered as Democrats in the State of Arizona that cannot vote for McCain in the primary elections and McCain wants to win. How can these hypocritical democrat leaders lay blame to the McCain when at the very least McCain has action to back his words? Why aren't Democrat leaders holding Obama's feet to the fire? Hispanics are more aligned with Republican values because of our social conservative values and our belief in the Creator; and if Hispanics want to make a real change to help change the face of our Party to bring it back to the Party of Abraham Lincoln, then I call upon all Latinos (Democrat and Independent) to register themselves as Republicans in order to bring it back to those roots."


<http://www.kvoa.com/news/arizona-hispanic-republicans-react-to-immigration-bill/>
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:20 PM
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1. they do have a point, albeit not the one they really wanted to make....
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 06:20 PM by mike_c
But yes, if Obama had kept his campaign promise to work aggressively on immigration reform, this law might not have gotten off the ground. On the other hand, there are just as many reasons to suspect that if Obama had succeeded in pushing immigration reform through congress, the teabag element and conservative pundits would have reacted just as they did to health care reform and vowed to fight it forever, including with laws like Arizona's. The real problem is that conservatives hate democracy unless they're the ones calling the tune that everyone else dances to.
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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:23 PM
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3. I hear you. But for Republicans to chastize Obama's
lassitude on immigration in the face of their non-cooperation on everything he's tried to do is a bit rich.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:50 PM
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18. it is exactly what I've come to expect....
eom
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:23 PM
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4. So, wait a minute...
a bunch of crazy ass white racists agree to make a racist law against hispanic people, and you agree in blaming a black guy?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:27 PM
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10. I like your post
it made me laugh
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:33 PM
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13. I wish I could KnR your rely....
I like it.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:49 PM
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17. come on-- did you read my whole reply or just the subject line...?
Sheesh. You usually do better than that.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:51 PM
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19. I read the whole thing.
First the part about them having the point, and then the dodge.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:56 PM
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21. I think you need to step away from the indignity bong and the outrage vaporizer...
...for a few minutes. Sometimes discussion is just discussion, not a veiled partisan jab.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:58 PM
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22. Yes, sometimes discussion is just discussion.
And sometimes discussion is just sticking one's foot in one's mouth.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:21 PM
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2. how despicable
pathetic
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:23 PM
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5. Hopefully this new BS law will backfire
Maybe it will increase the Democratic Latino voter registration and these idiots will be voted out.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:23 PM
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6. That president Obama is so lazy.
:doIreallyneedthesarcasmsmilie:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:24 PM
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7. Well, "Latino Republicans" immediately says these aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:25 PM
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8. (shrug) A sizable number of DUers have been blaming Obama for it as well...
They say Obama STOLE Napolitano and bullshit like that.

In both cases, it's just a lie, designed to cover up the real cause: the shitty AZ electorate who votes for the AZ legislature.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:29 PM
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11. It's a valid point- and this (along with other matters) was a foreseeable result
That's an honest take- made by some here at the time the nomination was first considered.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:31 PM
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12. No it's not. Obama didn't "steal" anybody. It would be more accurate to say
that Napolitano freely chose to leave AZ with the shitty legislators freely elected by AZ' shitty electorate.

That would be a valid point.

The notion that Obama "stole" her is pure, unmitigated bullshit.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:40 PM
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15. He nominated her knowing (or with every reason to know) the consequences
"Steal" has nothing to do with it- foreseeability (and the availability of other qualified people to run DHS) is what it's all about.

Several DUer's called this shot at the time (and looking back, it didn't take a stroke of genius).

Arizona's with drawl from the West Coast governors' climate pact- that was also a probability that occurred (and ought to have been- and maybe was taken into account).

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 08:07 PM
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23. No, Napolitano's free and deliberate choice to leave the state....
it's shitty legislators, and its shitty electorate is what it's all about.

Do you think all women don't possess free will? Or just Napolitano?

Or do you think Napolitano lacked the intellect and foresight? It was after all HER state - and she consciously and deliberately chose to leave it.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:40 PM
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16. Agreed. n/t
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:25 PM
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9. McCain worshipers.
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profile this Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:37 PM
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14. I took it personal
I can't believe they can even buy into this crap. I for one intend to recruit latinos for the November vote. This law was a personal insult.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 06:53 PM
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20. Do you have a quote from Pres. Obama stating 90 days from his inauguration?
My understanding was that he said in the first year of his Presidency,
and changed the timeline back in September, when he realized that Health Care
would take much longer than originally anticipated.

If someone has a quote from Obama on this 90 days,
I'd like to have it posted.


September 20, 2009
Categories: Immigration

Obama edges away from immigration bill timeline

President Barack Obama said he's not backing off of his commitment to immigration reform, but edged away from his promise to have a bill he strongly supports in Congress by the end of his first year in office.

“Now, whether that bill gets introduced on November 15th or December 15th or January 15th, that's not really the issue,” Obama said in an interview with Univision, aired Sunday. “I mean, it would be easy for us to get a bill introduced. The challenge is getting the bill passed. And there I've been realistic. What I said is that this is going to be a tough fight and that we're going to have to make sure that we are working as hard as we can to do it. I am not backing off one minute from getting this done, but let's face it, I've had a few things to do.”

“We had an economic crisis that almost saw a financial meltdown,” Obama continued. “Health care has taken longer than I would have liked, but it's a big, tough issue. Immigration reform is gonna be tough as well, but I think we can get it done.”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/0909/Obama_edges_away_from_immigration_bill_timeline.html

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