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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:39 PM Original message |
Dem Immigration Bill Unveiled - National ID Card |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. NOTHING wrong with a national ID card. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Issuing everyone who is a citizen, a US passport would do the trick |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I think what they have in mind is sort of a credit card type |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Yes, the advantage of a National ID card vs a passport is that it is |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 03:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. They already have a Passport the size of a drivers licence |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I didn't know that and never saw one! The last passport that was issued for |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
55. Yes, but they are not valid for air travel. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. PLENTY fucking DEAD WRONG with national id cards |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Sounds like you are an avid Infowars fan! |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Because it's so incredibly obvious it doesn't require 'factual back up.' |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Where have you been the last 15 months??? |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. No shit there is..I am STAGGERED at the number of sheep that fall for this... |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 07:47 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. The degree of contempt and sneer from those in favor of these speaks volumes |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. Is this irony or sarcasm? |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Logical next step: Require it for voting. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Why would that be bad? |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. The claim is it's only for employment |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. If it were only for employment it wouldn't part of the immigration bill. |
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The Northerner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. National ID? Aren't our SS#s being used already? |
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Dr Morbius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Ditto. Makes me uncomfortable. (nt) |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Well, I'm reserving judgment. But here's the downside: |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. That 1996 Article on a National ID Card Sure Was Prescient ..... |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. They're calling it "REPAIR": |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. The idiots will be creating another 'broken' bureaucracy to fix the problem... |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Yes. And SS#s are stolen regularly |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. I'd like something done about the stupid laws handling |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. Identity cards? Again? LULZ. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
8. This ain't good people. The cards are microchipped meaning they can track your every move. |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. You wanna loosen that tin foil hat? |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. One difference, Europe is way ahead in terms of restrictions and privacy laws |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Well, they don't use scans of the back of your hand, like I've heard they want to do here ro |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. You might want to read George Orwell before you start defending this shit. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:03 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Wow! It took all of 30 posts before the ghost of Orwell was resurrected |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. Waiting for the H guy to show also. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. Yeah and most European countries have massive intrusional surveillance.. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I thought it was mostly Britain, are the other members also placing |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. +1 |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. Um, only when you use them. Just like a conventional SS card. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. Won't that be just WONDERFUL for us homeless folks? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
16. They have WANTED this fucking ID card with biometric info and are using Arizona to do it |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Mission Accomplished |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Spooky! |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Actually, it is |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
17. National ID is a nightmare... How do I know? UAE has been implementing it for the last 4 years |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
20. If this is true, yuck. I do not want a biometric ID card. |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
22. Mark of the BEAST !! Mark of the BEAST!! |
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architect359 (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #22 |
48. ...talk about pouring gasoline on fire. eom. |
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greencharlie (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. bad idea... nt |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
36. I actually think a national ID Card makes sense. It certainly would have helped when I used to get a |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. That's just great... |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
44. And this is coming from |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:56 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. It's odd how not many here care to weigh in on this |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. OK, I'll bite and weigh in on this...... |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
50. A Federal Identity Card. One more step toward a police state. How do you think Republicans |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Look at the record of Big Bro techno abuses of just the last ten yrs... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
52. There are some credible reasons for a national ID card but lying raises red flags |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Bingo! n/t |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
53. Bump |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
54. Help, it's the police! |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
58. Link? |
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anarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-04-10 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
61. wouldn't it be easier to just use those radio transmitter tags? |
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