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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 06:30 AM
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Rachel Madow has posted a post-show fact check of her segment with the racist AZ group's leader
On the show tonight, Dan Stein, president of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, denied giving money to Protect Arizona Now, which was pushing the Prop 200 immigration initiative in 2004. One of PAN's top leaders was Virginia Abernethy, a self-proclaimed "ethnic separatist."

"We never gave that organization a dime," Stein told us. "And secondly, even if we were going to give them a dime, we wouldn't have given them a dime with Virginia Abernethy associated with it."

Let's look at FAIR's website, shall we? It refers directly to financial support for Virginia Abernethy's PAN.

more:
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/04/29/4222854-post-show-factcheck-dan-stein-of-fair
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 06:32 AM
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1. Rachel destroyed that moron live on TV last night
It was a thing of beauty.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 06:51 AM
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4. I wish I could watch her. Don't get that channel.
She is just wonderful. I've seen her on a few vids here and there and she is more a journalist and more intelligent than all of the CNN goof asses put together.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 06:55 AM
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6. Here:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 06:56 AM
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8. Here the link
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 06:37 AM
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2. These Weasels Can't Deal With The Light...
Kudos to Rachel...saw the "interview" and have seen Stein before...a real "work".

These shitstains are used to operating under the radar...spreading the money, the hate and the lies where they aren't seen and hope they become talking points or to astroturf lies that others have started. It's right out of the Morton Blackwell school...and when you start peeling away the layers of this stinkin' onion you see how these cowards will try to deny even when caught red handed hoping that since they are so invisible no one will notice.

It's been long overdue to start exposing all the tentacles of the right wing hate machine...the money, the many hidden characters and their modus operandi that has created a lot of the divisions and hatred we see today. Again, many, many thanks to Rachel for exposing this fraud and liar and may she continue to hammer.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 06:48 AM
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3. I, too, watched the interview last night. Truthfully, I didn't get much
out of it other than I sensed Rachel thought Stein was not truthful. I wish Rachel had allowed Stein to talk more. It seems that when she gets emotional about an issue she can't tell us fast or loud enough her reasoning. Hopefully, she will take Stein up on their agreement to meet again. I'm going to look at the FAIR'S website.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 07:41 AM
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11. Wow...I had the distinctly opposite reaction...
Stein talked a LOT, giving a long spiel without interruption...Then when Rachel tried to talk he talked OVER her....The "emotional" one was Stein, not Rachel, who could barely get a word in edgewise.

We must have seen two different interviews.:eyes:
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 07:53 AM
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12. Are you sure you saw the video from last night?
Edited on Fri Apr-30-10 07:54 AM by Dawgs
That guy was a dick. He tried to filibuster the whole fucking interview, refused to answer any questions, and accused Rachel of lying.

I'm not sure what you saw, but he had plenty of time to talk.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 09:05 AM
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14. He was the one getting emotional.
He was dodging the questions and trying to run out the clock by making counteraccusations and bitching about the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 06:54 AM
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5. VIDEO Here:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 06:56 AM
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7. This is why the wingnuts refuse to go on her show
She's all about the facts and facts have a well known liberal bias.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 06:56 AM
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9. Rachel was brilliant. Every so often the guy got a look on his face
like he wanted to bolt the room to throw up.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 07:06 AM
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10. I knew the guy was lying.
They hate being called a racist even when it is absolutely true.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 07:58 AM
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13. I don't see how hanging around with white supremacists impugns me!
Just because they are in the same groups as I am and just because I have given them positions of responsibility doesn't mean anything!

:wtf:
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