...psssst...Obama didn't cause the oil spill...

[WilliamPitt]

...and word has it he's re-examining the whole offshore drilling thing.

Just FYI.

[Blue-Jay]

1. Damn you Fartbama! Damn you to hell!

*shakes fist*

[Robb]

2. No, but he ordered the CIA bomb specialists to do it.

I have it on authority from the reverse vampires.

[WilliamPitt]

In cooperation with the Rand Corporation

...we're through the looking-glass here, people...

[Seneca]

5. Obviously using the same explosives tested on the moon

The moon is where they *always* test oil-rig-destroying explosives.

[Captain Hilts]

37. Man, if he's THAT devious I'm REALLY glad I voted for him!!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

3. Haven't you heard? He's failed to clean up the oil in a timely fashion

The economic and ecological damage being experienced, and that yet to be experienced, from this disaster is all on his shoulders. Really, it's true!





:sarcasm:

[WilliamPitt]

4. Just as bad as his decision to invade Iraq

Wait.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

12. His invasion of Iraq wouldn't have been bad if he'd not prematurely pulled troops from Afghanistan

Thus letting Osama bin Laden escape when he was pinned down in Tora Bora. What was he thinking trying to wage two wars at once?

[madokie]

13. Thats what the local paper is portraying

he didn't act fast enough. It's bullshit and we all know it but there are those who watch the likes of cnn and fox and those a holes believe anything thrown out there.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

26. They're attempting to exploit the emotions of those impacted by this disaster

It will work on some but not all.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

No he didn't cause this spill --

but he damned well DID overturn the ban on offshore drilling, which would certainly lead to future spills.

As for his "re-examining the whole offshore drilling thing" -- easy as pie to say (just like there must be a public option). Color me impressed when he signs a bill/EO reinstating the ban he just overturned.

[NJmaverick]

9. Actually what the President will do is WAIT, GET the FACTS, then

CAREFUL consider his position in light of the new events and facts. If drilling can't be done with reasonable safety it will not happen.

[madokie]

20. Thats pretty much why I voted for him in the first place

He has the balls, if you will, to change his mind as he becomes more 'learned', again if you will.

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[tekisui]

41. FACT blech blah garble TRUTH bitch smug yech REALITY.

[NJmaverick]

43. ???

:shrug:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

24. No, he did not

Tuesday April 20 was the first day the meetings on the environmental impact studies which he did approve. That's what he did. He opened the door for environmental impact studies. The first meeting took place in Houston on the same day as the explosion on the rig in the Gulf.

Have a look at this article.

Oil industry seeks fast offshore study

Energy industry representatives on Tuesday asked the government agency responsible for leasing offshore lands for drilling to expedite and even expand an environmental impact study of the effects of seismic surveying off the Atlantic coast.

That work will allow geological data to be collected in an area off limits to exploration and drilling for more than two decades.

The U.S. Minerals Management Service on Tuesday hosted in Houston the first of 13 meetings to gather public comments for a so-called programmatic environmental impact statement that will look at the potential harm caused by seismic work to marine life and ocean habitats, as well as alternatives and mitigation measures.

The meetings — 12 others are scheduled in six cities on the East Coast this month — come only weeks after President Barack Obama unveiled a plan to lift an offshore drilling ban for much of the Eastern Seaboard and other areas.

When the study is done, scientists should be able to begin collecting and analyzing geologic data so that the government can proceed with lease sales and drilling for oil and natural gas, as well as a host of other activities, from siting wind turbines to excavating sand and gravel.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/6967988.html

Guess what? I don't think big oil is going to get the rushed study they wanted. ;)

[Hell Hath No Fury]

35. He over turned the ban.

Plain and simple. The door is now open and the bum's rush will begin.

If George W. Bush had done this VERY SAME THING DU would be all over this for the bullshit it is.

And you damned well know it.

[NJmaverick]

36. Why are you ignoring the facts that you were just given?

[Hell Hath No Fury]

46. I have lasted 8+ years --

but the time has finally arrived.

Congratulations, you just popped my ignore cherry! :hi:

[NJmaverick]

47. That's not an answer to the question

[Lone_Star_Dem]

44. I know the door is not open.

That's why they were pushing last week to rush the studies. They can only begin if the the studies show low impact. After that the door would be open.

You're mistaking me for someone whose in favor of offshore drilling. I'm not. None of it meets my standards of safety and environmental responsibility. That doesn't mean I'm going to twist facts spew spittle out my mouth in outrage over these studies. That's just not my style. I will admit I was much more nervous about them last week, before the explosion and subsequent spill. Now I expect they may have a better chance of being given the time and attention they require to be valid.

You know what else? I fully expect to see tighter regulations after this disaster. There are some pretty simple things which could be done that could make our current rigs less dangerous and cleaner. The only problem is no one has given a damn about anything except profits for the past 10-years. It's a damn shame it takes a ecological disaster to get things done which should have been done a decade ago.

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[NJmaverick]

7. No way!

I am sure he caused the spill and ordered that there would be no clean up efforts! :tinfoilhat:

[underseasurveyor]

8. Oh yes he did

So there:P

[azmouse]

10. yeah well.... I bet he flew over it and then ignored it.

Presidents do that, ya know?

[underseasurveyor]

14. LOL... Good one

Wish I thought of that one

[laughingliberal]

I wouldn't think he did. It is very bad timing for him, however.

Glad to see he's walking his position on it back and reconsidering in light of this.

[LakeSamish706]

11. Kudos to him for his rethinking of Offshore drilling as well. Hope he puts a

permanent lid on off shore drilling.

[chat_noir]

15. Teabagger Twitterer starting sabotage meme

for her 47,000 followers

http://twitter.com/andilinks

Put eco-alinsky's on the defensive, presume oil rig to be eco terror.

Oil rig explosion too convenient for coincidence, sabotage evidence forthcoming.

Follow the money: who gains from oil rig explosion? Besides Iran & the hard left?


Please counter her vile statements.

[stray cat]

16. Although you could argue everyone on DU did because they use the oil drilled

[katandmoon]

17. According to HuffPo David Axelrod told GMA that "no additional drilling has been authorized and none

Will until we find out what has happened here."

UNTIL.

IOW, once they know what happened off LA, they are still willing take a chance that (1) it won't happen again, and (2) some OTHER unforeseen problem won't occur the next time and do to the middle Atlantic and FL coastlines what the current spill is doing to the LA coastline.

That's our president, nothing if not pragmatic about the environment.

[Froward69]

18. The "Treehuggers" did it

as there are NO trees on beaches or out at sea to damage. I used my logical "raisn'in" sills on this one.

:rofl:
god the stupid hurts.

[ShamelessHussy]

19. no, but lawmakers enable them

let's hope this incident sobers him up.

[Owl]

21. Why is the media referring to this as a "spill"?

The word "spill" portrays this disaster as a short term clean-up, like mopping up a glass of spilled milk.

It's a continuous, non-stopping flow; BIG difference!

I think a lot of people hear the word spill and don't appreciate the enormity of this event.

[greencharlie]

22. of course...

but good news or bad... the POTUS wears it around the neck. He wears improving employment numbers and he'll wear the oil spill... that's just the way it is. Someone will say that there wasn't a spill like this when Shrub was in office... lol. It's all politics... unfortunately, and they're ALL politicians.

[Beetwasher]

25. No, But He IS GOING TO PERSONALLY CAP THE WELL!!!

[fishbulb703]

27. Wrong. He is defending his drilling policy. Stop supporting a corporatist.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSWEN393120100429?type=marketsNews

[WilliamPitt]

28. I see your link and raise you

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2010/04/30/pelicans_otters_along_la_shore_in_path_of_spill/

[fishbulb703]

30. I'll call.

There's no way to prevent oil rig spills and explosions without drastically increasing expenses for BP, and ExxonMobil, etc. So I bet it won't happen. And that's not even mentioning the rigs still there that were installed in the 60s and 70s.

[NJmaverick]

31. Nice link I think you nailed it with this quote

"The administration's offshore oil and gas plan proposes a thoughtful, scientifically grounded process for determining which new areas on the outer continental shelf are appropriate for exploration and development, and for assessing the potential risks and benefits of development in areas that are being explored,"

[Whisp]

29. Shill, Baby, Shill!

of course he did, he's a corporatist. haha

[malaise]

32. LOL

It's really sad that you have to remind DUers about this truth.

[Statistical]

34. Yes he did. You just don't understand the complexity of 8th dimesional chess. n/t

[Junkdrawer]

38. ...psssst...

[Hell Hath No Fury]

45. Now THAT is the damned truth.

Too bad many here are so happily carrying that rancid bucket of water for O on this issue.

[Tailormyst]

39. Good and perhaps he will reverse his very bad decision.

[LanternWaste]

40. I notice that on threads like this...

I notice that on threads like this, one has merely to believe a contrary position to someone else to get labeled a shill, a corporatist, a sell-out, etc.

I see a lot of dogma in my church, but I see a lot more here. Although Mr. Pitt may not be aware of it, his OPs usually result in a wonderful petri dish full of cultures...

[spanone]

42. mrs alan greenspan wants to know if the adm did enough.....?

'there's a growing controversy'.....she says

george stephanapolous asked david axelrod if this was going to be Obama's katrina......FUCK ME

[Quezacoatl]

48. And it's not a natural disaster. It's corporate Katrina.

[damntexdem]

49. Yeah, I hear that it was some lady named Hallie Burton.

;-)

[freddie mertz]

50. Who said he did? I must have missed that.

What he did was triangulate on the issue, thus robbing the Democrats of an opportunity to stand clearly against this sort of thing.