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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:25 PM
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Laura Bush: Could France and Germany done more to prevent the war in Iraq? !!!!!!!
I think this reaches a new level of chutzpah:

There are a few crumbs of political interest strewn along the way: The usually charitable Mrs. Bush chastises the Democrats Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid for their “nasty personal criticisms of George,” and she writes that she has often wondered if Jacques Chirac of France or Gerhard Schröder of Germany “could have done more” to prevent the Iraq war, “if one of them could have persuaded Saddam to go into exile, if they could have conveyed that the United States was not bluffing.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/books/29book.html?src=me

Note - she doesn't say they should have persuaded the one man who started the war - her husband.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:26 PM
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1. OMG!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:28 PM
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2. Hey how about Georgie listening to Hanz Blitz that there were no
WMD? This is how they are going to attempt to rewrite history, it's everyone elses fault that the war started. Unbelievable!
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:33 PM
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3. Ok, then how about this, Ms. Bush. You are married to the War Criminal. What did you do?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:36 PM
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4. So much for Laura actually having a mind of her own.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 03:23 PM
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15. She never did. That's why most of her interviews were with Georgie...
when he was in office. The woman is a complete moran. The thing about it is, RWers love her because she knew her "place" as 1st lady. In other words, don't get involved in anything. Just bake cookies and STFU.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:39 PM
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5. What in the world makes her think George wouldn't have invaded had Saddam gone into exile?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:50 PM
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9. Bush would have declared him hiding - with the WMD - in Iraq
Edited on Fri Apr-30-10 02:51 PM by karynnj
The fact is that in the last few weeks before Bush called for the invasion, France and Germany were in talks with Saddam about leaving per Koffi Annan. (John Kerry spoke less specifically of there still being ongoing diplomatic efforts. )

Her book is one long attempt at historical revision. This claim is likely the worst - trying to blame others for what her husband did. She also defends the indefensible on Katrina. She blames John Kerry for making gay marriage a divisive issue in 2004 - rather than Rove coordinating gay bashing resolutions in 13 states)

But, in her pre-George life she blames everyone including God and the car manufacturer for the boy she killed when she ran a stop light.

Yet, some of the reviews still see her as a graceful, wonderful first lady.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:55 PM
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11. As I remember it, didn't Bush give him a final chance - 48 hours to leave the country -
and then started the bombing after only 24 hours?

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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:45 PM
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6. didn't the french do exactly that anyway?
i can't remember much, maybe someone who has lexis nexis or something can root around
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:59 PM
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12. They attempted to arrange it and there was some thought they were makking progress
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129774&page=1 suggests France continued negotiating even after the war started.

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-22591175_ITM shows there was substantial Arab support for that to happen.

This 2007 article, speaks of a deal being put forth for the US to give http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23414014-saddam-asked-bush-for-1bn-to-go-into-exile.dohim a billion dollars to leave -

Here's the UK's Guardian - of deals Saddam reportedly offered. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/nov/07/iraq.brianwhitaker

As was said, Bush did not allow diplomacy to be exhausted - he did not go to war as a last resort.

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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 03:03 PM
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13. thanks for digging that up
Edited on Fri Apr-30-10 03:04 PM by miscsoc
i'm looking through it
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:45 PM
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7. I suppose they could have poisoned W.
:sarcasm:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:47 PM
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8. Well, PNAC, and various other hawks, chose to back Bush/Cheney re illegal installation
... in order to implement Big Plans that only required a 'justifier.'
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 02:52 PM
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10. I was telling people for months before the Iraq war that there wasn't anything
the Saddam could do to prevent Bush from declaring war. Every time he complied with one demand, there would be another. Lies were told and intelligence was manufactured. The person we have to blame for the war in Iraq is George W. Bush and he wasn't going to let anything or anyone stand in his way.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 03:13 PM
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14. Fuck I hate that woman
she's damned near as bad as the dry drunk husband of hers.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 03:25 PM
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16. Someone get that woman some oxygen.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 03:55 PM
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17. Are she and Sarah related????
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 03:58 PM
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18. What nerve!
Hey Laura, why didn't you do more to stop junior from invading Iraq?
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 03:59 PM
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19. gotta love that personal responsibility thing.
she's got it down pat.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 04:02 PM
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20. Swamprat's pic of her comes to mind
Every thread from brave soul who read this Bushit "book" brings that visual back to me.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 04:03 PM
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21. W H H A A A A R R G A R B L E
...pzzzzzzzzcheeeeeeeezzzzzzzz...

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 04:44 PM
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22. W Was All About WAR
he was going to have his war no matter what!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-10 04:49 PM
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23. Ummm...where to begin with that one.
Edited on Fri Apr-30-10 04:49 PM by Rex
Saddam DID go into exile, did we forget (pulled him out of a rathole)? Oh and we controlled ALL the air space and most of the country of Iraq long before Dubya put on his boots to go finish the job his daddy could NOT.

Always depend on a Bush to fail and take everyone down with them. Then expect them to write about how OTHERS are to blame...blah blah...same old crap, different repuke imo.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 12:13 PM
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24. Surely pickles is not so ignorant she did not realize junior was going to have his war, be a war
president, no matter what, that war was an irreversible done deal, more sure than the sun will rise in the east tomorrow. Sheez, what a dumb/blind-ass! :-)
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