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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 05:56 PM
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FDA Approved Cyanuric acid OK in pet food
Edited on Fri May-04-07 06:03 PM by undergroundpanther
PART 573 — FOOD ADDITIVES PERMITTED IN FEED AND DRINKING WATER OF ANIMALSSubpart B–Food Additive Listing Sec. 573.220 Feed-grade biuret.

Biuret…………………………….. 55 minimum.
Urea………………………………. 15 maximum.


Cyanuric acid and triuret……………. 30 maximum.


Mineral oil………………………… 0.5 maximum.percent
Total nitrogen (equivalent to 218.75 pct 35 minimum.
crude protein).Percent

Biuret…………………………….. 55 minimum.(cyanuric Acid)
Urea………………………………. 15 maximum.
Cyanuric acid and triuret……………. 30 maximum.
Mineral oil………………………… 0.5 maximum.
Total nitrogen (equivalent to 218.75 pct 35 minimum.
(crude protein).

This site has alot of good info.
http://lethaldose.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/fda-allows-biuret-cyanuric-acid-triuret-as-food-additive-in-feed-and-water-of-animals/


A patent you should check out.

Process for the production of technical grade biuret,(A.K.A.cyanuric acid)
readily in a form suitable for use as animal feed, by the controlled pyrolysis of urea in two stages, the first stage involving the partial pyrolysis of urea at a temperature above the melting point of urea to produce a first stage intermediate reaction product containing from about 20% to about 60% urea, and not more than about 25% cyanuric acid by weight, such reaction product being then cooled and comminuted, the comminuted product then being subjected, in solid form and in the absence of a liquid carrier, to a temperature at or slightly below the softening point of the solid particulate

** (suitable at a temperature of from about 100.degree. C. to about 140.degree. C.)


http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4654441.html

...At the rendering plant, slaughterhouse material, restaurant and supermarket refuse, dead stock, road kill, and euthanized companion animals are dumped into huge containers. A machine slowly grinds the entire mess. After it is chipped or shredded, it is cooked at temperatures of between 220 degrees F. and 270 degrees F.

(104.4 to 132.2 degrees C.)

http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=1925


On a Monday morning, Cameron had to shout above the noise of routine facility maintenance. Two 60-foot blue silos at the front of the plant hold processed meal, he said. To the left, in a large ventilation structure, air-scrubbers wash vapor with chlorinated water. A thermal oxidizer burns additional odors at 1,200 degrees Fahrenheit, he said. With a hose, Cameron sprayed a

chlorinated, mint-smelling foam

that also reduced odor.
http://planet.wwu.edu/winter05/invisible.htm

In the rendering process, she says, no testing is conducted to detect drugs, pathogens, heavy metals or pesticides. As well, she says there are now serious concerns that pets are at risk of dying from “mad cow” disease and various forms of cancer from eating rendered foods. Martin says most commercial pet food is “garbage.”

http://www.jordemm.com/article5.htm


To prevent condemned meat from being rerouted and used for human consumption, government regulations require that meat be "denatured" before removal from the slaughterhouse and shipment to rendering facilities. In my time as a veterinary meat inspector, we denatured with carbolic acid (a potentially corrosive disinfectant) and/or creosote (used for wood-preservation or as a disinfectant). Both substances are highly toxic. According to federal meat inspection regulations, fuel oil, kerosene, crude carbolic acid and citronella (an insect repellent made from lemon grass) are all approved denaturing materials.

Condemned livestock carcasses treated with these chemicals can become meat and bone meal for the pet food industry.

Because rendering facilities are not government-controlled, any animal carcasses can be rendered;even dogs and cats. As Eileen Layne of the CVMA told the Chronicle, "When you read pet food labels, and it says "meat and bone meal", that's what it is: cooked and converted animals, including some dogs and cats."

http://www.frrhealthypet.com/id35.html
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:00 PM
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1. Geez, what do we feed the four-legged members of the family, now?
:(
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yasmina27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:06 PM
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3. I'm cooking our own food n/t
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:13 PM
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6. I don't know
but it pisses me off.
First nobody inspects renderers,nobody bothers checking out what additives and what wastes and chemicals make up the toxic dead stew that becomes pet food, animal feed ,make up as in cosmetics,and other things that we use and sometimes eat everyday.The rending plants deal with huge amounts of dead stock the cook 24 hours a day 7 days a week,they get every dead anmal they get and do not take off every polastic wrap every bag or every flea collar or whatnnot from what they render, to do so would be impossible due to the sheer amount of dead stock they process. Also remember pet feed gets D4 meat not fit for human consuption that meat is bathed in very toxic poisons to keep it from getting mixed in with the human grade dead things. Also in my original post, there was the issue of what they use to deoderize the cookers,

a chlorinated minty fresh spray...
From another thread..In Greatest on DU here..

Cyanuric acid is used in swimming pools

Edited on Fri May-04-07 09:28 AM by Gman
it helps hold in chlorine. Cyanuric acid is a swimming pool chemical also known as a "stabilizer".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2833835

Renderers have been making a toxic stew out of all the deadstock,and that in turn because nobody regulates what renderers do beyond keeping D4 meat seperate from stuff rendered for humans, this process has contaminated everything.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:28 PM
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7. 2007 will go down as the year we learned what we should always have known about pet food.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 07:49 PM
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15. 287 contaminants in umbilical cords
A study by the Environmental Working Group on umbilical cord blood had “found an average of 287 contaminants in the blood, including mercury, fire retardants, pesticides and the Teflon chemical PFOA.”

http://www.healthy-communications.com/unborn_babies_soaked_in_chemical.html

I always wondered whether people cared more about their pets than human life, it's starting to look like it.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 07:20 AM
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25. Republicans want us all dead, and they're going to start with our pets.
And your little dog too! Bastards, they killed Kenny!

Okay, I'll put the coffee mug down now.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:19 PM
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18. "Human Grade" pet foods. Learn more here:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 07:26 AM
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26. pretty much what I have always fed them, same food as I eat
if I won't eat it I won't force it on my pets, period.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:03 PM
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2. biuret and cyanuric acid are two different things.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:07 PM
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4. Hello undergroundpanther!
Edited on Fri May-04-07 06:09 PM by Rainscents
Thanks for posting this!!! People need to see how corrupted FDA really is. Who know how much chemicals are in our foods water... I believe, people are waking up slowly.

How are you?

:hi: :kick: K & R!!!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:37 PM
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8. I'm OK
Yeah I wish people would wake up faster because I don't think we got alot of time because the Earth along with our bodies are rapidly not being able to flush out the toxins accumulated over time as well.

Sometimes if you eat a tiny bit of something toxic ,once It might not hurt you, but eat it again and again over time it can slowly kill you.
Cumulative toxic effects are The result of a buildup of a toxin or a number of toxins over time in the body, as a person is re-exposed or continuously exposed.

We recycle dead animals over and over generations,and it eventually does damage. A strand of DNA can only make copies so far until the strand is unable to repair itself and goes into apoptosis or programmed cell death.

How long can the earth that sustains us keep on flushing out toxins from industrial processes after years of cumulative poisons?What we see happening to animals like birth defects die off or sexual anomalies , occurrs becayuse the earth cannot flush out the insane amount of pollutants we make so the pollutants remain and the bodies of creatures absorb it and through thier own body's functions pass some of these toxins to thier young via the mothers umbilical cord..which carries some of her toxin load to her unborn child in the blood feeding that unborn child. The same thing happens to all animals that reproduce if the environment is toxic the animals are including us if a animal gets pregnant and carries toxins it will spread exposures to the unborn and in turn it repeats and concentrates the toxins generation after generation..
.

The findings were not unexpected but nonetheless dramatic. The CDC reported most of us have dozens of pesticides and other toxic compounds in our bodies. One common chemical is the family of pyrethroids, which are active ingredients in pretty much every household pesticide. There are a high number of Americans with an overload of phthalates used in nail polish, other beauty products and soft plastics.

It is the first time researchers have investigated pyrethroid levels in the body. The synthetic is a common ingredient in both household pesticides and mosquito sprays. Considered safer than older pesticides, including DDT, pyrethroids can be toxic to the nervous system in high doses. Some scientists think lower doses can still adversely affect hormonal function.

, EWG released a study showing the presence of more than 200 chemicals in umbilical cord blood. The sample size was relatively small at 10 but every cord specimen (donated by the Red Cross from 2004 births) was loaded with nearly 300 chemicals, including many known to be toxic or cancer-causing agents such as mercury, fire retardants, pesticides and the Teflon chemical PFOA. More than 200 of the potentially toxic compounds were never before discovered in cord blood. The study is available at www.ewg.org/reports/bodyburden2
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/health/233680_condor25.html
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:07 PM
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5. I am angry, no words can express the rage I feel at the idiots
who decide things like this. What ever happened to conscience and good judgment? I can not figure out how we have fallen so low as to allow things like this. Who paid what research scientist, chemist, production supervisor, whoever, to give the ok to this and other atrocities foisted upon us in the name of the almighty dollar.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:45 PM
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10. Psychopaths
Corporations are basically just social-organizational psychopaths.
So of course if you let psychopaths take care of you and write thier own laws you will be hurt.
If you take all the social restraints off the corporo-psychopaths like taxes and public accountability and facing lawsuits and such by privatizing and other rightwing bullshit of course we will be harmed and lied to and our planet destroyed..
http://www.thecorporation.com/
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0218-01.htm
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:14 PM
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17. It's a known fact that socialized psychopaths...
...are 4% of the population. Few are in prison. Many end up being CxOs of corporations. (or Presidents of the US)

Psychopaths are predatory. Corporations are predatory. It's a match made in "heaven" for them. For the rest of us....

I've posted about this on DU a few times over the past few weeks because I'm reading a few books on the subject. One is "Snakes in Suits" ...

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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 12:23 AM
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22. Dr. Robert Hare "If I couldn't study psychopaths in prison, I would go down to the stock exchange"
Psycho at the top?
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/10/28/1035683360087.html

Is your boss a corporate psycho
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3392233.stm

The psychopaths in suits
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3395443.stm

Psycho Bosses on the Loose
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4149556,00.html

Robert Hare, professor of psychology at the University of Vancouver, is considered to be one of the world's foremost experts in the study of psychopathy. He estimates that about 1% of the population are psychopaths. "Psychopaths use superficial charm, manipulation, intimidation, and violence to control others and satisfy their own selfish needs," he says. "They lack conscience and feelings for others, cold-bloodedly take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without the slightest guilt or regret."

In the go- getting, ruthless world of modern business, such personal qualities are often valued and encouraged.

The result? A psychopath who stays on the right side of the law can go far, charming and manipulating their way to the top of the career ladder and treading on those in their way. "These individuals are every bit as egocentric, callous and manipulative as the average criminal psychopath," says Robert Hare. "However, their intelligence, family background, social skills and circumstances permit them to construct a facade of normalcy and to get what they want with relative impunity."
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:38 PM
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9. You know, for a minute there, I started thinking about the ovens at Auschwitz...
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:47 PM
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12. Yep
It is like that,but it's annimals

And I still don't understand how anyone could call this "creation" this world full of life destroying life to live, reproduce and die anyway, good or even tolerable.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:47 PM
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11. I hate these kind of posts
Why can people not get to the point. I have absolutely no idea what this post says. What does cyanuric acid do to pets.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:50 PM
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13. It depends on the dose.
There are no toxic chemicals, only toxic doses.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 11:00 PM
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20. Combined with melanine
in the kidneys produces the toxicity that currently is killing pets? Anyway I think I remember that was the accomplice additive the FDA recently mentioned. Two questionable but survivable chemicals interaction has blown the cover on the well known witches' brew that is pet food. Everyone has known it was garbage, even if some "advanced scientific and nutritious" claims keep competing for our attention.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 11:12 PM
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21. I think CNN had the report that showed scientists that
were working on this, putting both the acid in question and the melamine in a test tube and it crystallized within a minute. The scientist said that this was the crystallization that they were seeing in the sickened animals. (I'm thinking that it was on CNN, a couple days ago, maybe Wednesday.)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 12:41 AM
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24. Post #15
Do you know what's in every drop of food we eat every day? Or the shampoos and lotions and cleaners and paints?

That's why I'm a little confused about this one chemical, when we're all a walking toxic dump as it is.


http://www.womenshealthpittsburgh.org/
http://www.cdc.gov/exposurereport
http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/?p=76
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 12:29 AM
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23. It sounds nasty
other than that, I have no clue.

It's hard to make judgment when you really don't know anything about the safety of the chemical at the given dose.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 07:18 PM
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14. AAFCO Head Admits that Fluffy Might be in the Pet Food - youtube
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 08:07 PM
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16. OPost reads like Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" for pets of the 21st Century-ughhhh nt
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:27 PM
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19. I've been trying to warn people about commercial pet food for years
Edited on Fri May-04-07 09:27 PM by Lorien
there ARE excellent alternatives out there (more every day) : http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=243&topic_id=4388&mesg_id=4388

even "Premium" pet foods like Iams, Hill's Science Diet and Eukanuba contain the sort of crap listed above, but human grade organic pet foods DON'T contain such awful ingredients. Check out the ingredients in Prairie Nature's Variety (what I feed my own cats):

Ingredients
Chicken, Turkey, Turkey Liver, Turkey Hearts, Pumpkinseeds, Ground Chicken Bone, Apples, Carrots, Butternut Squash, Ground Flaxseeds, Chicken Eggs, Montmorillonite Clay, Broccoli, Lettuce, Spinach, Kelp, Salmon Oil, Apple Cider Vinegar, Parsley, Honey, Blueberries, Alfalfa Sprouts, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Persimmons, Olive Oil, Duck Eggs, Pheasant Eggs, Quail Eggs, Inulin, Mixed Tocopherols, Rosemary Extract, Citric Acid, Sage, Clove

http://www.naturesvariety.com/content.lasso?page=1440&-session=naturesvariety:186EFBB40c4e733EF7xyq235E4CE

This is just one product among many decent alternatives to megacorp commercial pet foods.
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